MelissaJKelly 2,124 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 If you ask me Capital Punishment is the easy way out. These people need to pay for their crimes and live with what they've done. If it was my relative, God forbid, death penalty wouldn't be justice for me. I'd want them to suffer. However, some prisons are now like fancy hotels so it's a no win situation. The Bulger killers in my opinion should never have been released. There are some crimes which are too horrific for the criminal to be allowed back into society. Look them up and throw away the key. Not give them 10 years but they only serve 5 with 'good behaviour'. Rant over. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 #25 Then life should mean life. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 If prison was so cushy, then why do some lifers commit suicide in there ? Fred West, Dr Harold Shipman & Ian Huntley who did'nt succeed., to name a few off the top of my head. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Remember the vast cost of keeping these murderers in jail for life and not contravening their human rights. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I blame our beloved politicians and judiciary for us even having this debate. At the time capital punishment was for all intents and purpose's abolished they promised life would mean life for murders!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am slightly to the right of Genghis Khan on this subject but even I was satisfied when that promise was made, only with age and the passing of time did I realise what a fool I had been. Now add in the cushy living conditions in prison and the likes of new identities and my proclivity for the return of the death penalty has returned. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 The discovery of DNA has made a huge difference in solving crime and will prove whether a suspect is guilty or not guilty. http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1320&issue_id=112007 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Some people still get away with murder most of them sit in the House of Commons 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Even more in the Lords. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Time we had lifers breaking rocks in quarries with a sledge hammer 8 hours a day. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkazana 1,736 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 #13 Your mention of even children being hung for petty crime brought to mind the Hanging Tree in Watnall (which I have remarked upon on another thread somewhere), still there in one of the fields with one particular branch removed....that which was used for the hangings. the last person hung there was a 10 year old boy. His crime? He stole a spoon! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Although I'm not for CP I think life should be whole life unless they're found to be innocent. I have no sympathies for the guilty murderers at all only the innocent.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I did three years in Gerards soap works on Wilkinson st !!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I did ten years in the colonies. LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 At her majesties pleasure ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 No, fleeing from Maggie Thatcher when she took office......LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Coward some of us had to endure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 And I'm still 'ere.! Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Best thing I ever did, I had some reservations until the cabin crew shut the door on the plane and we started taxying down the runway. Then it was too late, never looked back. From the letters I got from my late parents I knew I'd made the right decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I was on about the colonies in the Southern Hemisphere Dave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yes, watched a program the other night about folks being shipped out to Aus' for the most petty crimes. If you managed to stand the ten month journey you had a fighting chance of doing better it would seem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Red a book on the subject last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Not much of a chance to begin with it was an awful regime, they were treated no better than slaves. Having said that the living conditions they left behind were nowt to write hom about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MelissaJKelly 2,124 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 #28 - I don't think they kill themselves because of living conditions. Probably commit suicide when they've had time to reflect on the awful things they've done. I'd assume they could no longer live with themselves. Life should mean life! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I don't think so. Remember these people are psychopaths Melissa, they have absolutely no conception of right and wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Not all TBI, would be wrong to generalise that all murderers are psychopaths, there are enough of those on the outside ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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