Chulla 4,946 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 We are all led to believe that the Universe was created from the Big Bang, some 14 billion years ago. I have never subscribed to this theory - I think it is a cop-out answer because the scientists can't think of anything else. So, our galaxy consists of billions of planets, stars and suns, most of which have mass. We are told that there are billions of other galaxies just like ours. One cannot begin to imagine the amount of matter that there is out there, according to the experts all originating from the Big Bang. If this is true, then what size was the original mass before it exploded, and more to the point where did it come from? There might be some way of finding some evidence to the Big Bang theory, should it be true - and if it has not been possible to have done so before now. If there was an almighty explosion, then the matter would spread out in a radial ball, like an exploding rocket firework. The matter that coalesced into our planets would have been on the same radial path, but other matter would be on a similar direction but slightly at an angle to us. This being the case then we should be able to compute the angle and establish a point of infinity where our path and the nearby one converge. If we can deduce the speed of the expanding universe then we should be able to work out when it was that the two lines met, and thus when the explosion happened. Sleep tight Colly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,240 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I always thought Genesis was a bit of a fairy tale! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I traced my family tree back to a trilobite! #227 = Phil...A Trick of the Tale?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,109 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Some extinct fossils in every tree I suspect ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,240 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I've just been browsing and have discovered good evidence that the Earth is flat. Now I'm even more confused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,617 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Did you find out what is on the underside of this flat earth, Phil? In fact it may be the 'topside' as there's no up or down in space is there? And #226 Chulla, if there was a Big Bang and everything radiated out from it and is still going/expanding then surely there should be a vast empty space where it all started? (I know I've asked this before ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,240 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Obviously Hell is on the underside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,617 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Or is that the topside? or even the turtle that's supposed to be holding up the earth! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,240 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I think probably nothing exists and everything is within the mind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 #231. There must have been something there to radiate as matter. Nothingness would not explode. There could have been a nothingness before the great ball of matter, but how did it get there? Nah, the Big Bang theory doesn't hold up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,279 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Over the years travelling the country have often thought when seeing a view,when ive passed it,...the view is still there yet no one is seeing it...........but its still there............know what I mean Colly ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,617 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Does a tree make a noise when it falls down, when there is no-one to hear it? i know that's an old question.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,529 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Or does it get back up again when no-one's looking ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,617 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 In the Lord of the Rings, yes it does! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,617 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Sound waves only become a 'noise' when they are received by an ear (I think) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,279 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 We understand nowt really do we..............so just accept the 'All mighty'...........what else have we got ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 51 minutes ago, philmayfield said: I think probably nothing exists and everything is within the mind. That is essentially the doctrine of Christian science. Ie. You are not really sick its all in the mind. I think a soldier who just lost a leg to a landmine would have a hard time agreeing with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,386 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 #240 The old conundrum: if a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it still make a noise? Even more complex, or perhaps not: if a man makes a statement and there is no female present, is he still wrong? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,386 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 #236 Maybe the view is like Schroedinger's cat, Ben. You can't be sure it's there unless you look! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Absolutely. . Yes ma'am. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 I somehow don't connect the forming/making of earth to religion.... just hope that what i was taught as a youngster... still stands- in the sense of "Do good unto others" "Be polite to the fairer sex" ...and the Wife is always right...LOL!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Ahv sed it before an I'll say it agen. I don't like the word 'religion.' just seems to be a word that those who profess it like to use to have a war or lengthen some body's torso on a rack. The RC church and others once subscribed to the belief proclaimed in the first chapter of Genesis, and John 1 in the New Testament, that God made the earth by speaking it into existence. Creatio ex nihilo. People have come up with lots of ideas since. I have not read of one yet that is any more credible or provable than the one found in the Old and New Testaments. That does not make me 'religious,' as such. It is simply a matter of choosing what we believe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Wait til Colly comes on later...he'll sort it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,185 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 hours ago, philmayfield said: I think probably nothing exists and everything is within the mind. There was an article in New Scientist sort of claiming exactly that: "If everything we imagine & experience is really a computer simulation we'd never know!" Of course it's a load of old tosh; I think, but, no one has been able to disprove it so it's in with a chance. I'll be thinking of these things when I go to bed in the next few minutes as I'm very tired as we've been at SWMBO's Auntie & Uncles all evening, & they yabbered us to death. They had the heating on full & I was drowsy & falling to sleep as they showed us their Skills coach holiday photo's of Loch Somewhere they went to up Scotland... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,751 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Chulla #209. Thing is that you seem to be imagining a journey from A to B where the distance to B constantly halves. What you want to do is plan a journey from A to B to C, and stop when you get to B. Col 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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