The Engineer 614 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 First it was creosote, now I've found I can't buy proper carbolic soap (aka coal tar). Europe poking its nose in again methinks, something to do with carcinogens. I've been soaked with the former and used many bars of the latter and I'm not dead yet. Oh and no more sodium chlorate in case it's mixed with sugar to make you know what. What else are we not allowed to buy for our own good? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Can still get "Wrights Coal Tar" I use it all the time. I get it from a local discounter(Bonkers) Wilko's might stock it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Sodium Chlorate can be bought on many places on line Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Creosotes no longer available stateside either, treated wood isn't treated with arsenic anymore either, it's now a copper based preservative. Over here it's hard to buy ammonium nitrate fertiliser, none of the local farm suppliers will sell less than a truck load, no good if all you need is a few pounds for the garden. Frightened we might mix some diesel with it...LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Engineer 614 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 You'll find Wright's Coal Tar soap is just fragranced nowadays. In the old days, carbolic acid (phenol) was extracted from coal tar and used in soap among other things (any pitters will recall PHB soap). An EU Directive stopped the use of phenol in soaps, cosmetics, etc. but allowed it to be used in medicines (hence you'll find it in Germolene for instance). Anyone determined to get the real carbolic deal should look to Jamaican shops but even then you have to check for ingredients. It's generally pinky-red in colour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 #4 Put some of that in your tank & the car would go like a bomb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Engineer 614 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 From a HSE webpage: EC Decision 2008/865/EC for sodium chlorate was published on 10 November 2008. The dates for withdrawal of plant protection products containing sodium chlorate are given in Regulatory Update 05/2009. Would explain why it's not generally available for domestic use but there are exceptions, hence it can still be sourced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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DJBrenton 738 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Where horticultural products are concerned, quite often they are still on sale but are not allowed to be sold for their original purpose. An example is the wonderful product Armillatox. Because the company who manufacture it couldn't afford the costs of the new testing regimes they stopped selling it as a fungicide. It's still available in it's original form as a patio cleaner which doesn;t require the same testing level. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OrphanAnnie 296 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Does it work as a patio cleaner DJ? I can't get bits of moss and some stains off mine? Where can I get it - sounds like it is a poison used to get rid of armadillos!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,284 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 A lot of noise is being made in France about banning Roundup. Could buy photographers flash powder from the chemist when I was a kid. Made wonderful explosives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poohbear 1,360 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I was informed by a chemist that Saltpetre is now a controlled substance..I informed him that Napoleon had buckets of straw at the sides of the road for his soldiers to piss in. After a few hot days saltpetre naturally accumulated on the buckets. This is the world we live in, where a substance is controlled...but you can bypass the law by pissing in a bucket... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ayupmeducks 1,730 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Probably frightened of everyone making gunpowder??? Saltpetre, sulphur and charcoal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJBrenton 738 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 #10 http://www.armillatox.co.uk/default.htm is the EU website that only says it is a patio cleaner. It also kills fairy rings, honey fungus, white rot and other fungal infections that almost nothing else will kill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OrphanAnnie 296 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Thanks DJ I'll give it a whirl. Can get rid of those pesky fairies at the same time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,085 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Home Ales Beer, Shipstone's Beer, Kimberly Beer, and Whitbread Tanked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,166 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 A date...............when the wifes away............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,085 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 you can buy dates at Morrisons 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Orphanannie, that comment could be construed as non PC,not by me i'm Bulwell thru n thru!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 It keeps the children quiet 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 It's surprising what you could buy in none H&S days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Not seen these for years "IF" you can still get them they must be about £10 a packet of 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 They got yer going,tobacconist in Burton arcade sold them or pipe shop on Market st.Gold leaf were my poison... Peter Stuyvesant if a Yankee came up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubblewrap 3,815 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Been given up the "habit" for six years now did two 50 gram packs a week(Drum) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJBrenton 738 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 You can still get Capstan Full Strength and yes, they are £9.90 a pack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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