taxi ray 170 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 #13 This is a scan of the photo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taxi ray 170 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Regarding Marsdens, I was talking to my mother in law today, she said that there was a Marsdens on Russell drive at Wollaton in the early 50s, nearly opposite doctors corner. She also said that there was one near the Essoldo at Lenton Abbey. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,279 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Brilliant Ray,..certainly the oldest photo of a Marsdens i'll ever see,........as regards Russell dr one of the few i never worked at,and the nearest one to the Essoldo i recall was Willoughby st. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 373 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Sorry Vauxhall supporters, but I'm not convinced. Here is an enhanced and enlarged image of the car in the photo, with a Vauxhall Wyvern underneath. I have scaled both images such that the overall height of the vehicle is the same in both images. My impression is that this makes the Wyvern a much shorter, more rounded and upright looking car than our mystery vehicle. The rear of the back side window is much more upright. The front quarterlight is different too. Also the bulge in front of the Wyvern's rear wheel is much further forward than the mystery car. On that basis, the mystery car must be really quite large. As a wild guess, I wonder if it is American, as the styling is similar to products of the American Chrysler group in the late 1940s and early 1950s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,794 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I have to go with Merthyr Imp on guessing the car. I reckon it's a phase v Hillman Minx. Note the fuel cap position. http://foreveryoungadult.com/_uploads/images2/Hillman_Minx_Phase_V-ish.jpeg Weren't hillman part of the Rootes Group an offshoot of the giant US corporation, Chrysler ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,279 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just like to say thanks to cliff-ton for his few random photos thread thats produced some good discussion,at a time when postings have dropped to at one stage 100 in 24 hours............keep em coming mate .......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merthyr Imp 729 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Weren't Hillman part of the Rootes Group an offshoot of the giant US corporation, Chrysler ? Not originally - Chrysler took them over in the late 1960s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootes_Group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,529 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 To back up the theory of it being an American car, a model no-one in the UK has ever heard of - the Plymouth Cranbrook. 1. The chrome trim at the front doesn't extend to the door; 2. Chrome trim line over the rear wheel arch; 3. Chrome plate at the front of the rear wheel arch; 4. Rear bumpers wrap around 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I'm 100% certain it's not a Vauxhall Wyvern because it's the first car I bought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 373 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 In the same vein as the Plymouth, here's the equivalent DeSoto Trim seems to have changed every year on American cars, so whilst this is not an exact match the body shape is pretty well spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chulla 4,946 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Whatever type of car it is it is not a Vauxhall. In those days all Vauxhalls had chrome flukes either side of the bonnet. If this car had them they would be visible, seeing that the side-body shiny chrome strips are easily seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,794 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 All Vauxhalls were rot boxes anyway 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SK53 16 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Regarding Marsdens, I was talking to my mother in law today, she said that there was a Marsdens on Russell drive at Wollaton in the early 50s, nearly opposite doctors corner. She also said that there was one near the Essoldo at Lenton Abbey. I had no idea they were a chain! There was one at the Hillside shops on Derby Road (where Savera Tandoori is now). I hated running errands there when I was a kid, little old ladies would brazenly queue jump. It must have closed by the early '70s after which it was a chip shop owned by a Labour councillor (Bob Churchill?) becoming the Savera in 1984. Certainly it was gone by the mid-seventies because the off-licence next door became more of a convenience shop then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,279 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hillside was one of the smallest Marsdens,did a couple of weeks there about 61,........joined the Tennis club at the back of it,i think it was Coop owned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,529 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I wonder when it became a Marsdens, because PTP date this as 1949 and "Marsdens" is owned by G Birchmore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,109 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 A lovely old Austin lorry I believe...... Yes, there's the bike again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SK53 16 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hillside was one of the smallest Marsdens,did a couple of weeks there about 61,........joined the Tennis club at the back of it,i think it was Coop owned. The only other thing I remember about Marsdens was a big bacon slicer. All 4 shops at Hillside are pretty small. The Tennis Club was the Co-op Western Club (later Hillside Club). I don't know when the tennis side was dropped, there were weekly coaching sessions for kids in the '70s. The club closed fairly recently (2009 I think) the premises being demolished only in the last couple of years. Various plans have been suggested for the land to be used for housing or as part of the whizzy biomedical campus, but recently it's just been overflow parking for QMC staff during the tram works. The Lenton Times has recently had an extensive article on the Co-op sports facilities (much of the newer housing on Arnesby Road and roads off was a Co-op sports field). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,279 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 The bike looks like a 'granville'........and the Bero lorry reminds me of unloading the 8x3lb bags of there flour by handball,......earnt our money. All the Marsdens shops had the big red 'Bacon slicers' called or made by 'Berkels'............had to be cleaned every day at close of business,lovely old machines,but hard work cleaning em. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,529 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I had no idea they were a chain! If you haven't already found it, this thread covers Marsdens and many others. http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8783 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merthyr Imp 729 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 A lovely old Austin lorry I believe...... Yes, there's the bike again! I'd say a Bedford. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlebro 234 Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 It appears to be an ex WD Bedford MW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Yep x army Bedford..not our photographers bike though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,109 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 I stand corrected. Ex WD it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notty ash 373 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 To back up the theory of it being an American car, a model no-one in the UK has ever heard of - the Plymouth Cranbrook. 1. The chrome trim at the front doesn't extend to the door; 2. Chrome trim line over the rear wheel arch; 3. Chrome plate at the front of the rear wheel arch; 4. Rear bumpers wrap around Cliff Ton you were almost right. In fact it is the 1949 two door Plymouth coupe model 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,529 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Where was that photo taken ? I'll bet it wasn't AvailableCar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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