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In the late 1970s I had my car insurance through a broker named Bagguley who lived on Greys Road. He operated his office from his home address.

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4 hours ago, philmayfield said:

...... At the very far end was a chap called Langford who was a scoutmaster and Sunday school teacher. He worked at Leyland Office Equipment.   Next door to the Packers lived two Polish immigrants, Hans and Joseph. Hans repaired timepieces and Joseph Giemza was a somewhat ‘gay’ ladies hairdresser who had a salon on Market St. .....   I half thought Peter and Anthony Wright also lived there but it might have been Fisher Avenue, behind Arno Vale.

 

The two children I  mentioned - Nicky and Stephanie - had the surname Langford I think!  

I once had my hair cut by Joseph - I seem to remember the salon was at/near Canning Circus, up some stairs and overlooking a graveyard.  Does that make sense?  Joseph was next door neighbour to the Gisbornes - that's how I got to know him.

Pete and Ant Wright did live on Fisher Avenue.  I went out with Ant for a few weeks/months when I was 14 and he was 13  (aw, sweet and innocent days)

 

 

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3 hours ago, Cliff Ton said:

In the late 1970s I had my car insurance through a broker named Bagguley who lived on Greys Road. He operated his office from his home address.

 

That name seems very familiar to me   I think my dad did business with him, quite possibly insurance.

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4 hours ago, MargieH said:

The two children I  mentioned - Nicky and Stephanie - had the surname Langford I think!  

I once had my hair cut by Joseph - I seem to remember the salon was at/near Canning Circus, up some stairs and overlooking a graveyard.  Does that make sense?  Joseph was next door neighbour to the Gisbornes - that's how I got to know him.

Pete and Ant Wright did live on Fisher Avenue.  I went out with Ant for a few weeks/months when I was 14 and he was 13  (aw, sweet and innocent days)

 

 

Last time I saw Peter Wright he was landlord of The Air Hostess at Tollerton and Ant was a plumber. Joseph may have started at Canning Circus but he definitely was at the bottom of Market St. later. I remember his neon sign. He and Hans were friends of my aunt and uncle. Joseph was gay before it became fashionable!

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21 hours ago, MargieH said:

 

You are right, David, there was a little wood right at the bottom of Fairview Road but this then opened up into a field which had that lovely feathery grass in summer (loved walking through that!). Some of the parents cut some steps in the bank which led down to Breckhill Road, so their children didn't have to walk the long way round to Arno Vale via Greys Road and Maitland Road, but these steps were very slippery after it had rained...  

Where on Greys Road did you live?   I had several friends/acquaintances who lived on there ... Sally Freemantle who had a younger brother Andrew, Patsy Knowles who had a younger brother David (?) Jeremy Gisborne, Julian Packer who had 2 older sisters I think,  Stephanie and Nick (?) who lived in a newer house next to the wood you mention.  

Phil may be able to remember even more people on Greys Road..

I was only 6 or 7 when we left there, but there was a Bagley family over the road. The little boy always seemed to be plotting against his sister, digging pits so she'd fall in, etc. On our side of the road there was another little boy called Tuck. I was jealous of him as he had an astronaut costume. I would sometimes ride on the milkman's knee in his milkfloat. He went round the block and he would drop me at the top of Grey's Road, and I'd run home down the 'hill'. It seemed steep then, but you hardly notice it now as an adult.

 

There was (I think) some tennis courts on the other side of the road, past the Bagley house. We once watched fireworks there. We had some little girl friends who lived on a big house on Breck Hill. When the wood was cleared, you could access their back garden. Happy days.

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17 minutes ago, DavidA said:

I was only 6 or 7 when we left there, but there was a Bagley family over the road. The little boy always seemed to be plotting against his sister, digging pits so she'd fall in, etc. On our side of the road there was another little boy called Tuck. I was jealous of him as he had an astronaut costume. I would sometimes ride on the milkman's knee in his milkfloat. He went round the block and he would drop me at the top of Grey's Road, and I'd run home down the 'hill'. It seemed steep then, but you hardly notice it now as an adult.

 

There was (I think) some tennis courts on the other side of the road, past the Bagley house. We once watched fireworks there. We had some little girl friends who lived on a big house on Breck Hill. When the wood was cleared, you could access their back garden. Happy days.

 

I don't remember the name Tuck or Bagley, but I presume you lived there several years after I'd already grown up!  

You are right about the tennis courts.  They were publicly accessed from Hills Road, but a few of the houses on Greys Road had gardens which backed on to them so they had their own access.

One  of my friends lived in one of the houses that had gardens on what used to be the field beyond the little wood.  Her house had a steep drive up from Breckhill Road.  Her name was Sue Turton and, like me, she went to CleWs, but this would be before your time in the area - I'm talking 1954 - 1959ish.  My friend had a baby boy born in 1967 - I wonder if she then had some  girls... could they be your little friends, I wonder!

Would that fit in your timescale?

 

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I'm later, 1964 to 1971. The little girls (3 of them) lived in a big white house facing onto Breck Hill. They may have been called Wheelhouse. It did have a fairly steep drive... and the garden was at the front, a lawn with bushes screening them from Breck Hill. It's funny how much you can remember when you actually think about it! Going up Breck Hill, there was scrub land on the left and on the right clay pits which I played in several years after we'd moved to Mapperley. The scrub land is all houses now, and the clay pits are playing fields.

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I think the Wheelhouse you were referring to might have been Chick Wheelhouse the car dealer. He had a sales pitch and filling station on The Plains almost opposite the Gedling Miners' Welfare. He tended to specialise in sports cars and the more exotic. I used to fuel up my Healy Sprite there on my way home from work in the 60's and we talked cars. He later moved to Gorse Hill Garage further along the road near to Spring Lane where he had a Lotus dealership. I recollect a test drive there although I never actually bought a Lotus until I was 70! (my birthday present to myself). He then moved to Lortas Rd. at Basford and subsequently to Nuthall Rd. I knew him well but never actually bought a car from him. He's no longer alive but I believe his son Nick is a motor trader.

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3 hours ago, DavidA said:

I'm later, 1964 to 1971. The little girls (3 of them) lived in a big white house facing onto Breck Hill. They may have been called Wheelhouse. It did have a fairly steep drive... and the garden was at the front, a lawn with bushes screening them from Breck Hill. It's funny how much you can remember when you actually think about it! Going up Breck Hill, there was scrub land on the left and on the right clay pits which I played in several years after we'd moved to Mapperley. The scrub land is all houses now, and the clay pits are playing fields.

 

I think that was a different house to that of my friend.

 

i played in the old brickyard too, and remember Breckhill Fields.  When we visit Nottingham, we still drive round the area to see if anything has changed.

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Chick Wheelhouse's garage was few doors away from us.  Previously, owned for many years by Wardles.  When it was Wardles, it sold I think, Regent petrol and the front yard was always full of Army Trucks and he offered a 'bunkering service'.  I can't remember the names of the family, other than John Wardle was either our age or a year younger and they had a bull mastiff, that bowled me over one day.

 

Alongside (Tree Tops side) was the walkway to what I referred to earlier as 'Crosslands' fields, and once past the bungalow (Robinsons?) and the garage, on the right was a pond.  This used to ice over in winter and was a place for catching frog spawn!  it was also a pond where several kids went through the ice in winter or fell in during the summer.  To the right, in the main field, was an enormous horse chestnut tree where someone had banged in a few six inch nails, so that climbing it to the first level was easier.  Spent many a happy hour climbing or sitting in that tree - and the conkers were pretty impressive!

 

Chick Wheelhouse was a smart cookie as when he took over and started on car sales, he knew only too well that by parking an interesting car out front, people would stop and wander around. His wife ran a 1964 Sunbeam Alpine.  I have a photograph of my all time favourite British car parked there - a Gordon Keeble, only 99 built. I also have a picture of a new  Lamborghini Muira parked out front, though not for sale. 

 

When the business moved to Basford,  Lewis Collins from 'The Professionals' did the opening and I have a slightly out of focus photograph of Lewis on the Scalextric track there.  

 

Next door to the garage on our side, was 'Worsley's Dairy'.  Remember the  days before foil capped bottles of milk?  Worsleys had the wide necked glass bottles, which he filled by hand running the milk from churns across a cooler(?), in a tiny outhouse at the back of the property; the bottles had a pushed in cardboard cap.  Maybe he got the milk from 'Hillside Farm' just up the road?  He ran an ancient, prewar Singer van. 

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I worked for chick in the 70s great guy I remember his salesman Pete who played Saturday night at the movies endlessly i went in cars that Clarkson would kill for The first car i got was a Lambo i had never seen one dodge super bee  Firebird gull wing Merc the list was endless And thats not to mention chasing his daughters horse down Mapperly plains with a rope on the back of a low loader when it escaped I got this user name from Pete  Hows it going meeowed ?

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On 12/12/2018 at 9:16 PM, Socram said:

Alongside (Tree Tops side) was the walkway to what I referred to earlier as 'Crosslands' fields, and once past the bungalow (Robinsons?) and the garage, on the right was a pond.  This used to ice over in winter and was a place for catching frog spawn!  it was also a pond where several kids went through the ice in winter or fell in during the summer.  To the right, in the main field, was an enormous horse chestnut tree where someone had banged in a few six inch nails, so that climbing it to the first level was easier.  Spent many a happy hour climbing or sitting in that tree - and the conkers were pretty impressive!.  

 

Next door to the garage on our side, was 'Worsley's Dairy'.  Remember the  days before foil capped bottles of milk?  Worsleys had the wide necked glass bottles, which he filled by hand running the milk from churns across a cooler(?), in a tiny outhouse at the back of the property; the bottles had a pushed in cardboard cap.  Maybe he got the milk from 'Hillside Farm' just up the road?  He ran an ancient, prewar Singer van. 

Can you remember the milkman that lived a few doors up towards town from Dewsburys I think his name was Percy?

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Thank you so much for this piece of info - I love any bits of anything I can get.

i also have his old fine movies, but there are no busses on it.  I had them made into a tape and now I’m to scared to plat it Incase it breaks I’m looking for someone to put it onto a flash drive.  There are some photos of Central Avenue Etc.

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On 3/12/2018 at 8:51 AM, siddha said:

Anyone from 105th St Jude's out there?

Anyone there in St Jude's Choir - Stanley Gunn choir Master -

Nugg)

Dave Rowberry / Head boy - Cantoris he later replaced key board player Alan Price - The Animals.

 

I later met Dave Rowberry in The Ship, Wardour Street, London where perhaps he was playing at the Marquee Club. He completely BLANKED me when I introduced myself. I later worked on a movie starring Alan Price!

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Dave Rowberry was my older brother's big pal as teenagers , (though not sure my bro was in that choir ) .

Think they formed a skiffle band .

 

I've got a great moody black and white photo of them somewhere , when they did a trip to France . Must dig it out . 

 

My claim to fame is that one of The Animals broke my space-gun ! 

It was one of those guns that you wound up a sort of helicopter blade and fired it up into the air . Dave over-wound it and it never worked again ....probably 60 years ago and have never forgotten that  !   

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Liz, I remember there was indeed a milkman a few doors away from Dewsbury's and to my eternal shame, I was one of those young pups who marked the wet concrete, on our way home from school. 

 

l remember those Space Guns!  I think they were a bit fragile - and they weren't made in China either - could well have been British Hong Kong. 

 

As for the St Jude's choir, I seem to remember John Luff might have been a member.  St Judes (105th) and Mapperley Methodist (110th) Scouts/Cubs had a fairly close relationship and we had a combined soccer team, run by John Evans(?), in an under 15's league.  We got hammered every week as apart from Andy Firth (from Firth's Grocers), who was a year or so older and an excellent player, we were all nearer 13 than 15 anyway.   

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On 12/12/2018 at 2:52 AM, philmayfield said:

I think the Wheelhouse you were referring to might have been Chick Wheelhouse the car dealer. He had a sales pitch and filling station on The Plains almost opposite the Gedling Miners' Welfare. He tended to specialise in sports cars and the more exotic. I used to fuel up my Healy Sprite there on my way home from work in the 60's and we talked cars. He later moved to Gorse Hill Garage further along the road near to Spring Lane where he had a Lotus dealership. I recollect a test drive there although I never actually bought a Lotus until I was 70! (my birthday present to myself). He then moved to Lortas Rd. at Basford and subsequently to Nuthall Rd. I knew him well but never actually bought a car from him. He's no longer alive but I believe his son Nick is a motor trader.

I bought my lotus elan from him, my father knew him at the time and I got about £150.00 knocked off the price.only had it about 6weeks, before some thieving scrote nicked it. Mind you, in those 6weeks, it spent more time at Mick lovells garage, his place was under the railway arches at broad marsh !.

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Taken outside Chick Wheelhouse's garage...  Possibly 1970 - wouldn't be any earlier based on the number plate. 

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I’ve a feeling that might have been the “Twiggy” Miura, previously owned by Twiggy’s manager, Justin de Villeneuve.

 

If so, it’s still around and worth a few million quid.

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Yes, definitely a  Miura but if still living it must be on a private plate by now. I did once spot Chick doing a deal on a piece of exotica at Trowel Services. A bit strange I thought - but what do I know about second hand car dealers? :biggrin:

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I worked for chick in the seventies great bloke he would barter all day for fifty quid  I worked on some great cars sad loss when he passed on One of the old school meeowed

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His son Nick carried on as a car dealer and worked from home at Oxton. He specialised in Merc. G wagons. I can’t find any trace of him now though.

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Pete the salesman lived in the house next door to the garage nick was selling fwd motors from there for a while but did no good and yet the pitch was a gold mine when chick had it  chick had one client a lady who had won the pools  She spent the lot with him starting with roller and james bond aston and twelve months later finished with a triumph 2000 and she didnt know that she had already owned it once before she never kept any motor more than two months  meeowed

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