philmayfield 6,145 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 I used orgy as a term for overindulgence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, catfan said: Here in this city like many other cities we have a Winter Wonderland, no mention of Christmas anymore. https://www.visit-nottinghamshire.co.uk/whats-on/nottingham-christmas-presented-by-winter-wonderland-2021-p480781 Plenty more where that came from. Just Google 'Nottingham City Council and Christmas'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, philmayfield said: I used orgy as a term for overindulgence. Fair enough, but I still think that overindulgence is far from universal. A traditional Christmas Dinner is only glorified Sunday Roast. And in this house a Sunday Roast, is a rarity since the kids moved out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trogg 2,017 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, DJ360 said: winter solstice, usually around 21/22 Dec Then I can start to look forward to Spring and summer plants growing and wildlife on the move again. Also warmer weather for us to get out and about again, these Pagans knew about the best things in life. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Nothing wrong with paganism. I think it’s much more profound than other beliefs. As for Sunday roasts, a Sunday isn‘t a Sunday without the traditional roast at this house. Tonight it’s roast beef and Yorkshire’s with a fruit crumble to follow. Possibly some Stilton cheese. All accompanied with a bottle of fine wine. My wife’s a gourmet cook and I’m a gourmet diner! I don’t wear a dinner jacket though, that would just be too pretentious! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Not to mention the dry cleaning bills when you've spilled that lot down it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,422 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, philmayfield said: Nothing wrong with paganism. Not quite sure how you know, but I'll take your word for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Some of my best friends are pagans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,422 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 You have friends? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Well no, not really! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha 176 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Do your pagan serfs wipe their noses on their sleeves or the table cloth when serving dinner Phil? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Sadly we no longer have room to keep the servants since the west wing burned down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
letsavagoo 963 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 My cousin and her ex partner are very much into paganism. They officiate at pagan weddings (handfasting) and other ceremonies and I find it an interested subject which I find fascinating. However it does seem to attract a lot of, how can I put this politely, ‘Odd characters’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,422 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, letsavagoo said: how can I put this politely, ‘Odd characters’ The correct soubriquet is 'Barmy boggers'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,159 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Had me first Christmas Dinner yesterday, courtesy of Chailey Bonfire Society, (don't ask, it's a Sussex thing). Prepared and delivered by our local hostelry, down the road. Very nice but that'll do me for this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Meeseeks 51 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 9:53 PM, Jill Sparrow said: I'm a fully paid up member of the Bah Humbug! brigade but if people want to surround themselves with flashing tat, that's their choice. It has nothing whatever to do with Christmas so far as I can see but each to their own. I don't celebrate Christmas but on Christmas Eve, I sit and listen to plainchant by candlelight and remember the Christmases of my childhood. No tree, no fairy lights and no trimmings. After Christmas Eve, it's all over for another year. To me, there has always been something timeless about Christmas Eve. I've been a member for a few years. Whats the point in going to the trouble of putting up dekko's for a couple of weeks just to take them down again? A joy to put up, a chore to take down. The one that wins the naffish decoration is the sign that says "Santa Stop Here". Yuk, humbug, Second prize goes to Christmas themed films, so sugary. The champion of them all is Noddy Holder screetching out a Christmas greeting. Long Live Bah Humbug!! Although years ago had some memorable times and Christmas Eve did seem special This year I'll try a bit harder , here goes.. HAPPY Christmas and a safe New year to all members of Nottstalgia, have a good one! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,298 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 10 hours ago, DJ360 said: in this house a Sunday Roast, is a rarity since the kids moved out. Not here, every Sunday except when we are away from home. The kids and grandkids want to know why grandma is not cooking Sunday dinner. The fact that we are out with friends is not a sufficient excuse to miss Sunday dinner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Brew said: The correct soubriquet is 'Barmy boggers'. If not for the wink Jim, I'd be taking you to task. Paganism is in many ways an umbrella term for a number of belief systems originating from many parts of the World, but mostly pre-dating Christianity. Thing about 'pagans', rather like Buddhists and a few others, is that they are content to 'live' their belief systems without feeling the need to impose them on others, which I'm afraid cannot be said of certain other, much more 'major' World religions, including Christianity. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,470 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 9 hours ago, DJ360 said: Thing about 'pagans', rather like Buddhists and a few others, is that they are content to 'live' their belief systems without feeling the need to impose them on others, which I'm afraid cannot be said of certain other, much more 'major' World religions, including Christianity. That certainly seems to be true. I'm neither a pagan nor a buddhist but they both seem to display tolerance towards other religions and beliefs, in contrast to the hardline bigotry which comes from many others. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 I am probably closer to being a Buddhist now than any other belief, although I'm not a practising Buddhist. Proselytising from any religious sect just goes straight over my head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AfferGorritt 868 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Me too, Jill. “Discovered” Buddhism in my early teens and although I wouldn’t call myself a practicing Buddhist it’s always in the back of my mind. Went to Thailand, my first Buddhist country, about 30 odd years ago and liked the atmosphere and people. Like the tolerant attitude and the fact they don’t bang any drums or try to convert you. Went to see the Dali Lama in Nottingham years ago, and was impressed that when asked if he thought people should convert to Buddhism he said no. People should find spirituality their own way in whatever “religion” they are comfortable with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 The Dalai Lama is a very wise man and also has a very endearing sense of humour. He looks very much like our old friend, the Dalai Chulla! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,422 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 The comment was, as you noted, very much tongue in cheek. I recognise the vast majority of the faithful are peaceful no matter which brand they subscribe to but Buddhists, even the priests, have their radicals who are quite willing to be violent. Perhaps not as often as some but let's not get all gooey eyed. Kung FU is a branch of Buddhism and the Shaolin temple is seen as the birthplace of Chan Buddhism. Karate has a long history associated with Zen Buddhism and was studied by the Samurai. Martial arts ending 'do' (Bushido, Kendo, Judo etc, ) have roots in Buddhist teachings. No idea which brand those are in Myanmar happily trotting round with their begging bowls, but I'm fairly sure it was the same lot that went on the rampage not so long ago. The BBC a few years back carried stories of Buddhists attacking Muslims and there are many more examples of somewhat less than peaceful behaviour throughout the far East. Pagans? peacful tree huggers? Never heard of Vikings, Angles, Saxons or Mongols etc.? Perhaps those who claim to be pagan or Wicca followers actually have no idea what it means and just make it up as they go along. An excuse for prancing about naked in the woods must help. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 The only sincere and caring Christian I ever met was our local vicar some years ago. He would always go one step beyond to help people in need or distress. He often called in to see me, knowing that I was not of his faith. He did have a penchant for whisky though and I always poured him a generous measure. I think that was his only sin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 Let's not forget, either, that we're all human and no matter which beliefs we do or don't subscribe to, the temptations of living in a human body are legion. I think perhaps we'd all be better off without one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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