loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 The refuse of the affluent society Fly. Somebody'll clean it up. Ain't my problem!!!! Where's me welfare check? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 There's an old saying said by father to son. 'Leave your mark son. Always leave your mark'. Some obviously only leave a dirty mark. This could also be applicable to the 40's / 50's topic too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Jonab, yes there are laws and many parents have fallen foul of them, only a few weeks ago a man from Leicester was sentenced to prison for allowing his young son to wander of and drown in a lake. How these two slime balls managed to dodge the consequences of their actions I do not know, some how it seems you are not allowed to even criticize them. It's the little girl I feel sorry for, as to the parents a good kick in the crutch wouldn't go astray. 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Hence the need for a vigilante man to reap havoc and mayhem upon such cretinous lowlife. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Fly what really pees me off is the amount of money that has been and continues to be spent with nothing to show for it, whilst others in a similar position get bugger all 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Precisely ! From being probably the richest and most influential nation on earth, we are teetering on the verge of imploding. So sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 First thing to do. Put an immediate stop on immigration. Don't bother applying if you have no money or job lined up. No benefits of any kind until 10 years of contributing to UK economy. limit future immigration, one out then one in. Any illegal immigrant gets immediate deportation, no long distance immigrants crossing many countries to arrive here either. No NHS treatment, see ten year rule above. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plantfit 7,597 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Rog 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Isn't hindsight a marvellous thing ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 CF I as seem to remember it you had to have six months of stamps on your card before you could claim anything anyway. Now folks just turn up and hold their hand out, can't blame them it's the system that is wrong. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I definitely blame them ! It's the 'Something for nothing' scenario again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 When we first moved to Canada. There was no gov official waiting at the airport to escort you to your govt paid for apartment and give you your first check. Once through immigration you were on your own. Stay with a relative or pay for a hotel or sleep on a park bench. Your choice. You want money? Follow the newspaper ads or walk the streets 'til you found employment. Cause any legal trouble for the first five years other than a parking or speeding ticket and you were on your way home at your own expense. Nobody complained we all gorronweit. Now you can show up on a rowboat in the middle of an inland lake and claim refugee status. What went wrong?? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Reading about a homosexual in the NEP who referred to his male partner as his husband. Also a lesbian referring to her partner as her wife. No wonder society is at breaking point. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I said on another topic the other day. 'I don't want my standard of living diminishing by others greed', and I stand by that. Charity begins at home, and I deplore our own citizens doing it, never mind Eastern Europeans or people from certain African countries. Selfsh, uncaring....... Maybe I am, but I've worked damned hard to look after my own. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I agree with your sentiment Fly but the point I was making was if the system allows it to happen you can't expect people who ever they are not to take advantage, the human race just isn't built like that. If I lived in a mud hut with no sanitation and no way of seeing my way forward then I would see getting into this country as improving my families lot. CF has the right idea follow his guide lines and they won't bother coming in the first place. I remember when my wife's uncle and his family emigrated to South Africa in the 70s, they had by law to employ a servant to try and supply work to the native population. His words to me were "It's useless the black man will sit in the sun all day until he is starving only then will he consider work." Not true of all but certainly some. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,160 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Now then chaps,simmer down,this song was mentioned the other day.............sang and made in 1969' Great big melting pot, take a pinch of white man, wrap it up in blackskin, add a touch of blue blood, and a little bitty bit of red indian boy curly latin kinkies mixed with yellow chinkies if you lump it all together well you got a recipe for a get along scene oh what a beautiful dream if it could only come true you know you know what we need is a great big melting pot big enough to take the world and all its got Great song and words.........well its nearly 50 years on.....its happened, embrace it,you can't change it,enjoy it, 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, catfan said: Reading about a homosexual in the NEP who referred to his male partner as his husband. Also a lesbian referring to her partner as her wife. No wonder society is at breaking point. We've noticed that too, Mick. Sort of funny really This is really a tacit admission that the old ways worked. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,140 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 You’d get locked up for writing those words today. Freedom of speech is no longer our right. Whatever you say you will offend someone nowadays. Some people go out of their way to take offence. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Unfortunately true, Phil. We'd better change the subject. Gonna get the thread locked. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Yep if I was it repeat that at work I would be sacked on the spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,160 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, philmayfield said: You’d get locked up for writing those words today. Freedom of speech is no longer our right. Whatever you say you will offend someone nowadays. Some people go out of their way to take offence. Spot on Phil..........thats the problem,freedom of speech is being eroded ,i believe in people saying what they feel, then agreeing ''nicely'' to disagree 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,140 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Although I wouldn’t do it purposefully on a public forum I always say ‘a day when I haven’t offended someone is a day wasted’. The trouble is it’s usually my wife! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 It's the political correctness that is gradually stifling all discussion that is not couched in vague generalities. Makes for a pretty grey existence. If something offends me I stay out of it. I don't petition the powers that be to take it down. As old tricky Dick Nixon used to say. "If ya can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,140 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think you’ll find that was Harry S Trueman. Don’t want to cause offence though! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Could be. I think a lot of sayings attributed to today's politicians were probably said years ago by somebody else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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