Buses in Nottingham

[IAN FINN 808]

I remember going to Butlins holiday camp at Filey by Skills bus got on outside the Albert Hall that was in 1964.

[IAN FINN 808]

Was there a bus company called Bramcote Coaches or Lamcote Coaches if so where were they based at and where did they travel to?

[philmayfield 6,140]

I think Lamcote were based in Radcliffe on Trent.

[Stuart.C 491]

My immediate thought was the same , Radcliffe, then I Googled lamcote coaches radcliffe and there are loads of pictures;

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/lamcotes/

[Totongirl 341]

Has anyone got any pictures of Nottingham Atlanteans and Fleetlines before they were rebuilt with centre exits? I'd love to see the rear destination displays as well, these vehicles were so handsome in their original condition. Thanks.

[Beekay 5,150]

I used to drive 'em TG. But that don't count do it.? 77seaters. 

[Stuart.C 491]

Any good Ttg;

 

https://www.aronline.co.uk/ar-cars/the-bus-section-leyland-atlantean/

[Beekay 5,150]

I don't really know which thread to post this on but it fits lots of threads. Like Totongirls request for photos.

Each time I  read them, I  think what a great tragedy that I  never owned or had access to a camera until I  got married in 1965. It saddens me to think of all the images I've missed over the years. My earliest photograph of me is when I were 17 years old, so no kids /school pictures or owt'. Nottstalgians has ignited my thirst for things gone by and it makes me feel guilty that I can't  offer any contributions. Forgive my waffling.  Beekay  

[Beekay 5,150]

I know it's not a Fleetline, but this is one of the vehicles I drove. I believe it is now based at Ruddington transport museum. I would dearly love to see it again and possibly have a sit in it would be amazing.

[Totongirl 341]

22 hours ago, Stuart.C said:

Any good Ttg;

 

https://www.aronline.co.uk/ar-cars/the-bus-section-leyland-atlantean/

Interesting website, thank you, but no pictures that I was looking for sadly.

[Oztalgian 3,296]

Totongirl,

 

I know it is not a NCT Atlantean but is this the sort of bus you are looking for?

It is an ex NSW Transport bus Photo Daily Telegraph

[Totongirl 341]

18 hours ago, Oztalgian said:

Totongirl,

 

I know it is not a NCT Atlantean but is this the sort of bus you are looking for?

It is an ex NSW Transport bus Photo Daily Telegraph

Thank you but not really. I just remember the NCT Atlanteans and Fleetlines when they were brand new but still had conductors. We travelled on them quite a bit as a family, on one occasion the conductor let me press the lever on his ticket machine to issue my ticket. Just childhood memories but in those days only adults had cameras and my dad never used his to take pictures of NCT!

[Beekay 5,150]

There are a couple of pictures on the previous page TG. Your last post just echoes what I said earlier about regretting not having a camera in my early days. I had some great times on NCT, but equally, some crap days.

[Totongirl 341]

2 hours ago, Beekay said:

There are a couple of pictures on the previous page TG. Your last post just echoes what I said earlier about regretting not having a camera in my early days. I had some great times on NCT, but equally, some crap days.

Hi Beekay, I suppose we can all say that about our jobs! After many years I only do mine now for the money, they managed to beat the interest out of me years ago! There are actually a lot of pictures on this thread if you have an hour to spare going through it, just not quite  "the one", not yet anyway! Thanks for the interest.

[Beekay 5,150]

I've got 2/3 pictures I have to clean up tomorrow if they're any use TG. But not quite sure what you're looking for. If you can elaborate or even PM me then I'll see what I  can do. After all, two sets of eyes are better than one.

[Totongirl 341]

22 hours ago, Beekay said:

I've got 2/3 pictures I have to clean up tomorrow if they're any use TG. But not quite sure what you're looking for. If you can elaborate or even PM me then I'll see what I  can do. After all, two sets of eyes are better than one.

Hi Beekay, I'm just being nostalgic. As a child we lived on Hucknall Road and the 6/17/18/28 group of routes always seemed (to me as a child) to be used as a testing ground for brand new busses. I remember how handsome the HTO***D, MTO***F and PTO***G registered vehicles looked as they passed by.  Pictures  of the Daimlers in particular before they were rebuilt  seem to be so rare and anything other than a standard front end view even more so. I always felt that rebuilding these busses spoilt them and removing the rear destination blinds to leave a black rectangle made them look awful! 

Thank you in advance for any pictures you have, I keep looking on ebay as well.

[Deepdene Boy 642]

Hi Totongirl, the Hucknall Road routes you mention were on the "Bagthorpe" rota and were the first to be converteed to OMO (One Man Operation) in January 1970. Hence the reason for the Fleetlines and Atlantans being used on them. As at that time the drivers were still handling cash and issuing tickets from "Ultimate" ticket machines they couldn't leave their cabs to change the rear blinds. To my eye the OTO-M batch of Atlanteans were the finest examples of the Nottingham Standard.

[catfan 14,793]

The Bagthorpe rota was originally time tested with new buses for one man operation.As a consequence afterwards the Bagthorpe rota representatives demanded new buses on that rota.

A practice that annoyed many drivers on NCT, myself being one of them,

When Bulwell depot went part one man operation in May '75, routes 44 & 71 we were allocated buses 160 - 184, Daimler fleetlines, we thought it was Christmas & our birthdays together.

Bulwell had never had buses only two years old before.

[Deepdene Boy 642]

It didn't all go smoothly with the Bulwell OMO allocations. The original plan was that Bulwell would get some of the older Fleetlines, whilst the deopt chairman of the TGWU was demanding an allocation of new Atlanteans, 586-611. There was much toing and froing between management and the TGWU, I know,as I heard one half of the many eveinng phone calls in the spring of '75, before the compromise was struck and the entire batch of Willowbrook bodied Fleetlines went to Bulwell depot

[Totongirl 341]

On 3/16/2020 at 9:26 PM, Deepdene Boy said:

Hi Totongirl, the Hucknall Road routes you mention were on the "Bagthorpe" rota and were the first to be converteed to OMO (One Man Operation) in January 1970. Hence the reason for the Fleetlines and Atlantans being used on them. As at that time the drivers were still handling cash and issuing tickets from "Ultimate" ticket machines they couldn't leave their cabs to change the rear blinds. To my eye the OTO-M batch of Atlanteans were the finest examples of the Nottingham Standard.

Yes I'd forgotton about the drivers still handling cash in those days, now I remember, the red drop boxes and no change given started with the L registered Fleetlines.

It was pictures of the Fleetlines and Atlanteans from just before OMO and rebuilding that I was interested in, as I said they seem to be very hard to come by.

[Totongirl 341]

During the lockdown I've noticed on my shopping trips to Beeston that the gas buses have gone from the Orange 36, replaced by Orange 35 diesel vehicles. Is this due to the higher cost of running the gas buses? Obviously I've not been elsewhere in Nottingham so don't know if gas buses are still operating on other routes.

[philmayfield 6,140]

The gas for the ‘gas’ buses is supplied direct from the mains gas. Don’t be mislead by the ‘enviro gas’ bit. The makers of the ‘green’ gas pump it directly into the mains. City Transport probably pay the ‘green’ gas supplier direct. It’s the same as ‘green electricity’, it all comes in on the same overhead cables.

[Totongirl 341]

23 hours ago, philmayfield said:

The gas for the ‘gas’ buses is supplied direct from the mains gas. Don’t be mislead by the ‘enviro gas’ bit. The makers of the ‘green’ gas pump it directly into the mains. City Transport probably pay the ‘green’ gas supplier direct. It’s the same as ‘green electricity’, it all comes in on the same overhead cables.

I didn't know that, just assumed it was methane from natural sources! I did know that the electric buses (and cars) are charged off the grid which is laughable, coal or nuclear generated electricity going into them. 

I often see one of those Nottbus 510/511 vehicles being charged at Beeston Interchange  middle of the day, presumably because it can't complete a days work going up the hills either side of Bardills island!

So are any of the gas buses in use or have NCT gone back to diesel only?

[IAN FINN 808]

Is that the same gas Bartons busses used during WW2 with the bags on the roof?

[Beekay 5,150]

That's what I  wondered Ian.  The only electric buses I knew were called trolleys.