Cliff Ton 10,466 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 hours ago, HSR said: Where is the Bank on Lower Parliament Street? I assume CB Hunt is referring to this one., which is a Fothergill building. https://goo.gl/maps/RNnkTxkmSLKyU2Jb8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C B Hunt 6 Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Yes that's it and the Fothergill catalogue explains some of the features on the building eg tea producers (as befits a provisional merchants!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just having a coffee while reading some fantastic posts & posters, I can't help but think the originator of this thread Firbeck would have bossed the "Anything Political" thread. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,134 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I have some 'souvenirs' from the old Welbeck Hotel. Two rather nice etched decanters. An uncle of mine worked there before the war! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Phil, was your uncle related to the Arfinchers? I have many in my bloodline.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,134 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 We always say they were a leaving present! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HSR 286 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Tasteful and tantalising! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua Turner 1 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 2/12/2016 at 4:33 PM, DAVIDW said: Doesn't seem to be much of a history online of the Black Boy . I notice on the advertising posters on page 2 of this thread , it says Turner and Co as the owners . They appear to have owned it for over 100 years . Thomas Turner born about 1816 seems to have been the founder .He died at the hotel in 1887 . This Rootschat link has him on Smithy Row as far back as 1841and they appear to be a Gunthorpe family . http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=9750.0 This is them on the 1871 Census . Interesting to note that of all the servant , only one is a local . Hi David, I am a descendant to the Turners who were proprietors of the Black Boy. Would you be able to help me dig up more info if you’re able to help? Thanks, Josh :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,134 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 We got engaged and dined at the Black Boy hotel! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua Turner 1 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 7/9/2020 at 6:23 PM, radfordred said: Just having a coffee while reading some fantastic posts & posters, I can't help but think the originator of this thread Firbeck would have bossed the "Anything Political" thread. Is this from the Black Boy Hotel in Nottingham? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua Turner 1 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 9/8/2009 at 11:53 AM, firbeck said: The ressurrection of the Flying Horse topic made me think about this wonderful building, the building that was the FH is still there but this has shamefully been long demolished. I found this photograph on Picture the Past, I reckon it was taken when demolition was about to begin:- http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/petetruman/blackboy.jpg I'm not sure when it closed it's doors for the last time, I presume that it had a bar accessible to the public, but I don't ever recall going in there when we started going round the town pubs in the late 60's. I can remember looking in the entrance when I was a kid, they always had a uniformed doorman on the door and the inside was very oppulent with lots of polished woodwork. I don't remember it being demolished either, I think it must have been when I was away at college 1969/1970, it must have caused a lot of disruption to the City centre. All I recall was a gaping hole and a massive brace of scaffolding stretching between the two buildings on either side. Then they built that concrete monstrosity that became Littlewoods, the Planners must have been even more stupid (or corrupt) than they are now to have allowed it to happen. Last week when I nipped up to see mother, I found another box of my childhood treasures including my old postcard album. I was amazed to see what the original album cover actually was:- http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo101/petetruman/scan0011-3.jpg I suspect that my old man's printworks used to print the menus and wine list contents, unfortunately, I just have the cover and the lists have gone. Does any one have any memories of this place and when exactly was it closed down and demolished, Google searching is a bit vague. This is amazing! Do you still have this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,417 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 '61/2 My friend from down the street was a bell boy complete with brass buttons and pill box hat. I often went to wait for him finishing work and sat in the foyer feeling very out of place.The things I remember above all were the snooty attitude of the staff and how threadbare the carpets were. To me it all seemed tired, worn out and the clothes in the display cases outrageously priced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua Turner 1 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 None of my family alive knew we ever had the hotel, it wasn’t until I started digging I found out about the hotel. It’s a bit of a grey area after William and we don’t exactly know what happened but we believe his son moved away in the late 19th century to Langold in North Nottinghamshire where some of the family still remain to this day. I found old bank statements from when Thomas and William Turner both died, both would have been millionaires today, sadly we have never seen a penny of that money, we don’t know exactly what happened. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,683 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Joshua Turner said: Hi David, I am a descendant to the Turners who were proprietors of the Black Boy. Would you be able to help me dig up more info if you’re able to help? Thanks, Josh I doubt I could add much more at the moment but will have a look and report back if anything found . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua Turner 1 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 Smashing! Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,466 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Joshua Turner said: This is amazing! Do you still have this? Unfortunately Firbeck who made that post in 2009 is no longer with us, so you won't get a reply. However, that photo and many others can be found via an internet search of Black Boy Nottingham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joshua Turner 1 Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Cliff Ton said: Unfortunately Firbeck who made that post in 2009 is no longer with us, so you won't get a reply. However, that photo and many others can be found via an internet search of Black Boy Nottingham. Terribly sorry, I’ve had a look online but struggle to find many of the inside and of the Turners themselves who lived there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,683 Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 The report of the funeral of Thomas Turner from the Nottingham Journal , May 28th 1953 . It was made worse by the fact his widow Diana Waycott Turner died (the same day as the funeral ) after taking an overdose of sleeping tablets . This may be a reason the family weren't talked about ? "FUNERAL OF MR. T. TURNER At the funeral service held at Wilford Hill yesterday for Mr.Thomas Turner, of Old Mill House, Bleasby. who died on Monday. there were representatives of the owners and staff of the Black Boy Hotel. Nottingham, of which Mr. Turner had been a trustee. The family mourners included: Major J. W. Turner (brothers; Mrs. K. I. Wright (sister) and Mr. D. Wright (nephew), Mr. and Mrs. W. B. Clarkson, Mr. and Mrs. B. H. Walker, Mr. J. Crawford and Mr. J. H. Shipstone (sisters and brothers-in-law). Owners of the Black Boy Hotel (Brunt's Charity. Mansfield) were represented by the chairman, Ald. G. Abbott, and Mr. A. C. Howard, clerk and surveyor to the charity. The Black Boy Hotel was represented by Mr. W. J Gent, manager, and by thefollowing members of the staff Messrs. A Gibson. assistant manager. E T. Lirian. chef, B. Greenhough, head waiter, P. Bingham, head waiter (grill room), Miss J Emery housekeeper, Miss Williams, head book-keeper. Mr. J. Leeson, head porter, Mr. A. V. Sutton and Mr. B Prior, porters, Mr. T. J. Turner, cocktail barman (also representing the U.K. Bartenders' Guild). Mr G W Howitt, cellarman, and Mr. F. Wilkinson. garage attendant. The Nottingham and Nottinghamshire United Services Club was represented by Messrs. FW Bee, G. A Wharton, LH. Gibson. T. A. Allan, H. B. Fletcher, TN Cartwright (also representing A. H Mann) and A. R. James. Also present were Messrs. C. M. Perry. A. R. Hedgcock, K. Howitt (also representing R. Wing and O. Spencer), P. R. Morley (also representing C. C. Hanson and Col. A A. Walt a). A, M. N. Rodgers (also representing Mr. W. D Crane)." In a later report from June 1953 : TRANSFER. The licence of the Black Boy Hotel. Long Row, was transferred at Nottingham Transfer Sessions yesterday, to Mr. Wilfred John Gent. Mr. Gent has been managing the hotel for many years on behalf of Mr. Thomas Turner, who died a few weeks ago. 27 June 1953 - Nottingham Journal - 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,466 Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Fascinating to see the names of people who worked there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,079 Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just read this post looking at the list of people at the funeral there is a Mr J H Shipstone. Do any of you know if he was any thing to do with Shipstone Brewery? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAVIDW 1,683 Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, mary1947 said: Mr J H Shipstone. Do any of you know if he was any thing to do with Shipstone Brewery? Mary , I would say he was James Henry Shipstone of the brewery family. There's a marriage in 1899 in Nottingham for a James Henry Shipstone to a Gertrude Turner . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 His grave is in the Rock cemetery on Mansfield Road. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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