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  1. I was told of a murder on Burns Street, just off Waverley Street. The story was told to me by Bob Highton "Big Red " soon after I joined the City fire brigade in early '68. It must have been earlier sixties I think - they had been called to a fire on Burns Street. As he was going up the stairs, through the smoke, his head hit something. looking up it was some ones legs, hanging. He told me he ran out in fright !. When the smoke had cleared, blood was seen leaking through a bedroom ceiling, in the attic was found the body of a girl. It was found, apparently, that the father had murdered
  2. Thanks for that interesting link Clifton, the consensus appears to be anti-aircraft gun site, but, would that many huts be needed even with a 2 or 3 shift system. ? I suppose it's possible that if homeless were given them after the war, maybe a few more were added later, it's quite a large space. When we moved here in the mid seventies, there was a similar layout of huts in a wooded area nearby. Put up for Italian prisoners of war. Eden camp museum, near Malton ,is based on an Italian prisoner of war camp with many of the original huts still in use. Good bit of Nottingham history , will l
  3. I've found this topic fascinating, parts of the City I never saw. Looking at railway lines referred to on the old maps, I spotted an area to the right of Ransom Road where there is an unusual semi circular layout of small blocks, marked as ruins, there are what look like old barracks nearby. This is on a post war map and I wonder if it's an anti-aircraft site or perhaps a barrage balloon site. I'm intrigued, anyone know about that site ? On Google maps there is now an education centre. Regards all.....
  4. Is there a facility on the new layout to add photo's ? The drop box and photo bucket things are beyond me and I have a 'where is this' photo I'd love the historians on here to identify. Where it says, below, drag, or choose or other media, will that do it ? Regards all.
  5. I found a vast on-line list of basket makers in the Nottingham area. Nothing tied in with ML&S so I now assume they were simply the people who used the basket, not made it. It could even be a sellers' tart-up to make it look more interesting to buyers. Never mind, some interesting history never the less. Regards all.
  6. Thanks both, not an exact tie up but an insight into that activity in the City. I will do some more digging on-line. Like lace, there could be a number of firms, even small long forgotten ones, I'll have a look in Kelly's next year in the archive centre, I 'm looking forward to a day out in the City.
  7. Just seen, on Bargain Hunt, someone bought a basket made by a Nottingham Company. On the side , stencilled on - ML &S Ltd Nott'm. I don't recall such a company but would like to know more as we used identical baskets in the City Fire Brigade to send kit on to another station. We called them "the laundry baskets" and I'm sure I saw them in the various City Hospitals too. We would have bought local for sure.
  8. Looking at the details on that plan, I'm amazed at how many back to back terraced houses there are and the number of streets that have since gone. Vast changes over the years. Very interesting.
  9. You're right, it would have been the carpark , the graveyard was long gone. That space could'nt be seen from Lower Parliament Street as there were large advertising hoardings directly at the foot of the sandstone bank. It was a wide footpath (at that point) , with a fairly wide grass verge too between path and hoardings. The cave the fire was in must have been a peaceful little space for whoever was dossing in it, out of sight behind the hoardings. I believe the graveyard was not in use for decades, well before Lower Parliament Street was put through. Vast changes in th
  10. Well found , Clifton. I now recall a later conversation with that City Engineer, behind the fire area in the main cave , was a small pothole off to the right, I crawled down it about 8 foot to where there was just a small hole into a cold blackness. He told me that it was probably the void under the steps up to the graveyard. I think that was most likely, that sandstone bank up to the top was about 7 foot .
  11. HSR, re the new Ice Stadium, some research was done by a City department tied to the City Engineers. Archaeology ? A couple of years ago I was in touch with a guy at that department about the caves in that area. They had discovered all sorts of caves whilst preparing the site for the new building but very little was documented as it did not seem important at the time. The caves were all filled in. I looked at the old maps and I think there had been an old pub somewhere on the southern end of that area. Just to the north of that, there were some steps leading up into an old graveyard. I had bee
  12. Bamboo was right up Mansfield Road, on the left ,maybe a hundred yards or so before the lights at Forest Road. Was quite trendy at the time, despite being a wierd orange based decor. I remember it well, I met a fabulous looking girl with glasses on, there was a record playing - judy in disguise, with glasses - whilst I was chatting her up, I went to get two more coffees and my mates told me stories about her that put me off. I never went back. It later turned out that they did'nt even know her and made it all up just for fun. The ba**ards !!!! What might have been ?
  13. I went to see Dave Alan, at one point ( this is about 1970 ) he said, " now here's a message from the King in 1984,..........." dis am de King speekin.... " I looked around and even the black and asian folks in the audience were pi**ing themselves with laughter. , how times have changed.
  14. As well as my Citroen DS, ( low to get in, higher when getting out ) I have an Austin Gipsy, it's my mobile Shackleton high seat chair !
  15. With references to the Police, is there, or should there be, some sort of acknowledgement of Athelstan Popkess ? Not a national hero, but a major player in Policing in Nottingham , brought the City Force up to date and, for me, ex fire brigade in the City, I'm well aware of the extensive measures he introduced to protect the City and its' citizens during WW2 from the effects of bombing and fires. It's a long time since I've been in the Cities museums, perhaps he's already recognised, if not, he must be worth some sort of representation ?