Smiffy49 590 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Just heard on the news that from October 1st 2014 you will no longer need to display a tax disc on your windscreen. Apparently all cars will be monitored by the APNR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) System. Anyone with a disc that goes past October 1st can in theory throw it away as "the system" will know you have paid. Road Tax will be paid for via the internet, phone or post office. You can even set up a direct debit (so no excuse for forgetting?) They stress that it is important that if you sell the car you inform "the powers that be" that you have done so straight away, to ensure you don't get a fine if the next owner does not tax it. Cars will be scanned using APNR as you travel about the country so if your tax is not up to date you will get affine through the post. I suppose this also means that the APNR system can tell where you are from day to day? Smiffy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 BIG BROTHER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLY2 10,108 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Better keep out of trouble then.......! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,467 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 They stress that it is important that if you sell the car you inform "the powers that be" that you have done so straight away, to ensure you don't get a fine if the next owner does not tax it. That has always been the case; if you don't tell DVLC that you are no longer the owner, you might get all kinds things ( such as speed camera fines for the new owner) coming to your address. I suppose this also means that the APNR system can tell where you are from day to day? ANPR has been in police traffic vehicles for many years; you only have to drive past one and they might stop you for something which the system flags up. eg no insurance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Apparently if you sell a motor vehicle that is taxed you will have to surrender it when you sell, to the DVLA, the new owner will be required to re-tax the vehicle again. So if you sell a vehicle mid month you will only receive reimbursement for COMPLETE months left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenFord 866 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Take note however that the insurance side of the system can lag by a couple of weeks - in other words, your insurance renewal doesn't get on straight away. My son was stopped a couple of days after renewing (and changing) his insurance. Fortunately, He happened to have the new documents with him. His wife was stopped in the same car, at the same spot, the following day. I don't think she was best pleased. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlebro 234 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Take note however that the insurance side of the system can lag by a couple of weeks - in other words, your insurance renewal doesn't get on straight away. My son was stopped a couple of days after renewing (and changing) his insurance. Fortunately, He happened to have the new documents with him. His wife was stopped in the same car, at the same spot, the following day. I don't think she was best pleased. Whilst this is a real pain I wonder how uninsured drivers manage to get away with it. If you are stopped and have recently renewed/changed insurer the Police can put a call through to the insurer and confirm cover is in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dgbrit 258 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 A beer bottle label dosn't work anymore ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlebro 234 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Nope Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fynger 841 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 nor the " tax in the post " sign....lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlebro 234 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 There will be a sale of tax disc holders at Halfords 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fynger 841 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Gonna put our final disk in a frame and hang it on the wall, as a piece of nostalgia....PLUS a reminder when it's due. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karlton 582 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 watch out Del Boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiffy49 590 Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Seems a strange thing to do really... A traffic warden casually walking along a line of traffic would easily spot an untaxed, or out of date tax on a vehicle. What will they do now, get a little scanner out? My Mother was a stickler for obeying the law and the following is true. Once, in the 1960's, when they were on holiday in Wales it was that warm the sticky stuff on the underside of the holder dried out and the tax disc kept falling off. My Mother held it in place everywhere they went. Eventually it stayed in place, but on the way home (in the dark) it fell off again. She picked it up off the floor and (you guessed it) she held it in place all the way home (in the dark).... Another amusing incident on the way to Cornwall comes to mind. We were in an old Morris 10 and had to ask a policeman for direction in Bristol (pre M5). The policeman bent down to give directions through the open window. My Dad put the manual "swan's beak" indicator on and it struck the policeman in the eye. My Mother was horrified and thought that we were all going to spend a night in the cells. Happy memories...... Smiffy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN 1,118 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 The tax disc may be worth a lot of money in years to come and be on the Antiques Road Show! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 123 34 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 In Tasmania this idea was introduced a year ago but the troubling thing is we in this state don't have yearly inspections like they do in other states just random roadside checks.So a lot of bomb cars with baldy tyres and other such problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banjo48 928 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Here in Western oz, no registration stickers for 3 years now. All police and traffic wardens carry scanners that read the plate and linked to central computer. Some cbd areas have scanners and on our freeways (motorways). We also have fixed speed and average speed scanner/cameras. Big brother Is definitely watching down here ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MELTONSTILTON 452 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 The tax disk was scrapped in France in 2000, the government just added a few cents onto the price of petrol, so you now pay as you drive, 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colly0410 1,181 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 The tax disk was scrapped in France in 2000, the government just added a few cents onto the price of petrol, so you now pay as you drive, I can't understand why they don't do that here, probably coz they'll lose a bit of control of us.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bilbraborn 1,594 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Smiffy I would love to have seen that Bizzies face. Pity there were no mobile phones then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roger peatman 337 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I can't understand why they don't do that here, probably coz they'll lose a bit of control of us.. And they'll lose the extra bite of the cherry !! -- can't have that, can we ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Don't give our Politicians any ideas! MORE Extra tax at the pumps MAT (Mileage Added Tax) + Keep the Vehicle Excise Licence! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiffy49 590 Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 One day I am sure that they will have a bar code put on the roof of each car so that they can be scanned as they pass under a bridge or other similar place. This way they will not only be able to ensure that it is taxed and insured but also where it's been from day to day ! Smiffy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 APNR will do all that for you, Smiffy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fynger 841 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 So ...if i go to someones house to look at possibly buying a car, how do i drive it home if i do buy it....surely i wont set up my tax before i go to their house because i may not buy it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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