DJBrenton 738 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 We do. LED headlights have already been introduced in the Audi A8 and Lexus LS and LED tail lights are fast becoming standard on most cars. A couple of problems with energy saving bulbs that add to the cost. Firstly, the effectiveness of Xenon/Halogen is pretty ,much in direct proportion to the energy consumed, also many energy saving lights are too slow to reach peak output. LEDs have the problem of not producing heat so without heated glass in front, there can be problems of icing over in winter. They are also a more costly method to incorporate in a car so will be introduced from the top down through models until the cost/benefit is better. In theory, LEDs should last the lifetime of the car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 "In theory, LEDs should last the lifetime of the car." In theory yes but in reality no ! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeestonMick 263 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I've always been of the belief that if a road designer installs a roundabout (usually after extensive monitoring of road conditions for months and months) and then, at a later date, it's decided to add traffic lights the original contractor should not get paid. I still have no idea why you would put lights on a roundabout. If that's required then there shouldn't have been a roundabout there in the first place, it should have been lights. Something to think about. Low power consumption LED or hi-res lighting whether for car or home do in fact use less juice but you have to take the process of manufacture in to consideration. All semi-conductor devices such as LED's, transistors micro chips etc. are etched and deposited with nasty chemicals and gasses and a lot of power is used during the manufacturing process. This is similar for battery cars, it's all very well saying they're eco friendly but what about the the generation of the electricity to charge the vehicle? None of the above is as friendly as the powers would have us believe. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
broxtowelad 175 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 #25 Why would we need low energy light bulbs fitted in cars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeestonMick 263 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 To save load on the electrical system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 This loony council would have you believe that the "Tram" runs on fresh air & is eco-freindly too. Sad thing is all the tree huggers & green brigade believe em ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Thing is Catfan ,they probably don't use it!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,283 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Why do people buy new cars? What's wrong with a decent 2nd hand one? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,160 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Only had brand new car when it was a company car,............in my foolish youth i got one on HP......Never did it again,only got cars i could afford to buy cash, Bleddy Cars...............last one cost me £200,.........lol. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Only brought a 'spanker' once,an EFI black Orion new shape,worked at Standens then,took it up Chartwell to work..contracts Manager did his nut..zoomed off to headquarters behind star pub..and wingded to his gaffer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewBasfordlad 3,599 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 One of the problems with buying second hand these days is that the vehicle is so complicated they cost a fortune to repair and half the time a DIY repair is out of the question. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,160 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 YOU RIGHT NBL,..................my car talks to me..............but i can't even check the sodding oil.,...........and whats all this Diagnostic's shite////////////////////////////////? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Booth 7,364 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I can remember when my friends dad had starter motor problems with his car. He went down the scrap yard and got a used one. When he got home he'd get his bag of spanners, the bonnet went up and he changed the starter motors. You could see things under the bonnet in those days. Nowadays, you lift the bonnet and can't get at anything bar the oil and water. If you have a problem you have to go to the garage where they'll plug the car into the computer to find the fault. Once they've found the fault they empty your wallet. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,283 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Bought wife a new car when I retired 11 years ago. It depreciated by £18k after 3 years. The most I've paid for a car since then is £3k. Current car £2.5k and taken me to France and back 5 times and a pleasure to drive. Can't see any reason for getting anything better. If a big bill looms at mot time I'll just buy another cheap car with a full mot. I had a £3k car for 8 years and only spent a few hundred on it; then it was nicked.2 years ago, otherwise I would still be driving it. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loppylugs 8,429 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Your car talks to you, Ben and I bet you swear at it in return. No wonder it won't co-operate. Lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 My old Renault who I call 'Ronnie'.. Obviously!! Always runs better after a Polish and a hoover..even the tyre walls got a going over..runs like a beut, turns on a dime,purrs like a cat..700 bucks..bargain!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 When I bought "Reggie Babe" at a cost of £3k for a five year old car, I didn't sleep at night for ages. I ran this car for ten years with virtually no problems, in fact this was then the best car that I had ever owned then. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeestonMick 263 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 whats all this Diagnostic's shite////////////////////////////////? You can buy a code reader for about a tenner, I bought one a few years back and it saved me thousands. FWIW - all the readers and error codes are industry standard and you can find the meaning of the errors on t'interweb. I've used mine on Jeep, Jag, Volvo, Renault, Peugeot, VW and Ford. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,160 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Thanks mick,i know you mean well but I just couldn't buy owt like that it bores me silly,and I know it would save money but my Brain just switches off if confronted with owt technical/mechanical......................guess I just have to keep working to pay others to do it for me,............got my car back this morning and the bloke who repaired it started showing me all the Gubbins he'd replaced,wanted to throttle him (bless him nice bloke).....lol. Just read back what I wrote............can't believe I put GUESS.....these Colonials from the good old USA on here must be rubbing off on me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeestonMick 263 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've got an engine management light on on my Jag right now but knowing what it is this boy won't be fixing it. It's the second o2 sensor at the rear of the transverse V6 and it's a complete and utter bugger to get at. My repairer won't be too chuffed but what do I pay him for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin1945 16,160 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Pheew,these 02 sensors on the transverse v6's.............are a 'Bark' are'nt they Mick......................now where did i put that Banana thats turning black........lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeverilPeril 3,283 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Email from agent yesterday. Replacement part £120. Service £435. .............and that was for my wrist watch!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sue B 48 1,226 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Why is it raining AGAIN ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ValuerJim 277 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Read S. 188 of the Highway Code and that will answer the question. Just read it, Phil. It's roundly ignored in this part of the country. It seems most of us are capable of treating the junction as a roundabout for the purposes of priority, without the need to attempt to drive around it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,467 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Why is it raining AGAIN ? Look on the bright side - it's the wind and rain that's keeping everything fairly mild. If it didn't rain, it would be colder and frosty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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