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As the title says, every time I read the NEP a shop has been raided for selling illegal tobacco products.

Indiscriminate parking everywhere too, no parking enforcement seems to take place unless it's Goose Fair week. The whole area seems to be a den of iniquity where crime is commonplace, not the Hyson Green I lived in a few years ago & loved.

 

http://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/gang-sentenced-over-60k-haul-625156

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I think deep down we all know what the problem is but because of the PC brigade we are not allowed to say for fear of being prosecuted,as you said Mick,It's not the place I knew when I was growing up

 

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I think we both agree on the same reason Rog. Crying shame about HG used to be such a vibrant safe & busy shopping area where many decent people lived & were proud to live there.

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No need to go into town on a Saturday to do the shopping,everything you needed could be got "dahn the green" the same as Arkwright street "dahn the medders"

 

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This is an area I knew well as a child. My mother knew it from her childhood (born 1926). It's true, you could get anything you needed without going into town. Woolworths, Boots, Staddons, Fine Fare...and before that, Beech's on the same corner. Ford's, for liberty bodices. Small businesses, butchers, bakers, the Post Office, library...everything.

 

When I was a child, many of the large houses along Gregory Boulevard were being split into flats but mum often spoke of the people who lived in them in her childhood and how many of them had servants. It was a prosperous area then.

 

The last time I was there, many years ago now, I decided it was best to remember it as it once was.

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Our last visit to Nottingham was two years ago before that it had been nearly twenty years. Hubby wanted to go along the "strip" as he called it, one trip was all it took we never went back. There was nothing left that he remembered shops and people all were foreign, it's hard to go back home and nothing left of the places where you used to hang with your mates.   Old central and Sneiton market gone where worked with his uncles as a barrow lad before leaving school, old dance halls and pubs also gone. We may go back again time will tell.

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It can only get worse Gem,the indigenous people of those areas are now in the minority  (not sure if I'm allowed to write things like that on this site so if any of the moderators think it needs deleting so be it)

 

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Dont think any reason to delete Rog,you didn't knock or even critisive anyone, there is an underlying theme but it depends how others react,

 Nottstalgia is in the main about how things used to be,

Nottinham like most places today multicultural, and we need to embrace it, our kids and grandkids don't give it a second thought,, 

I think the problem is people don't take the first step, ie, hello,good morning with a smile, not hard is it

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I don't live in a high multi cultural area,  but we have as most towns immigrant families.  I consider myself a friendly person and will respond to anyone who speaks or smiles at me, but often if i pass someone i will smile say hello and will be ignored, their children will come to see Ben and will be shouted at to get away. So it works both ways if people do not want to intergrate you can't force them, i wonder why they go to other countries when they have no intention of mixing .

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I know what you are saying Gem, they are here for multitude of reasons, and by and large are here to stay, this weekend i have worked with many nationalities, most from war torn countries, where they fled from for the sake of their childrens lives, 

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I find that families from war torn countries tend to want to intergrate, they know that a return to their home country as it was is nigh on impossible. I teach both adults and children english "from a geordie " at a local center and they are so eager to learn, at every class one of the familes bring food from their home country for myself and another lady to try. To me this is intergration as it should be you can mix if you want to and not lose your own nationality.  We all have different views that is what makes us who we are.

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Thats excellent Gem you are so right, this weekend ive been with Iraqis,Syrians,among others,and have exchanged long conversations with them,got to say all nice people and yes they bought me food as well,

    They all had young children with them,who could speak better English than their parents,

       Also mixed with some English too, most of them were ok as well,  lol 

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Gem, referring to your comment about the immigrant children being told to get away from your dog ....... in our neighbourhood we have a quite lot of Indian families and I’ve noticed on several occasions that as I approach them while walking our terrier they scuttle out of the way, as if they’re scared of the dog (or maybe they’re scared of me :crazy:) I wonder if it’s in their culture to have a dislike of dogs?  

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You probably right there lizzie, it must be you that scares em,

Lol

You dont see many asians or north africans with dogs do you,

 

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I've worked with many many Indians over the years, also socialised with a lot of them, visited their houses, etc. Never thought about it before but I've never known any of them to own a domestic animal, dog or cat. Maybe back in the day in their native countries they were nuisances, rabid perhaps, needed feeding for little return.

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I've thought that too Lizzie, or maybe they look upon cats and dogs as food, as many Asians in their home countries do such a despicable thing.

Most Asians I've worked with were more terrified of cats than dogs.

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Aren't all animals looked upon as sacred in a lot of eastern religions and as such should be free to roam?

 

Rog

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Hyson Green as always been a rough area unless you were part of it or frequented on a regular basis............back in the 60s took a girl Christine'' from Mansfield to Goose fare.........then for a drink down the Green.......Smiths Arms'' i think,...............whilst ordering drinks at the bar......she said to me ''ive just had me arsed squeezed''.........i said take no notice they all do that in here''...........he'll probably sing to you in a bit.........if you accepted where you were, you took it in your stride.........loved Hyson Green.............and if you read this ''frinton John''.......baby Doris ived down there on Pleasant Row''............

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It's hard to imagine that Brutalist style was hugely popular everywhere in the 60s and 70s, for all sorts of public buildings, shopping and housing etc. Built and then demolished after twenty years. What a diabolical waste of money.

 

I remember delivering a colour telly to one of those flats about 1974. Came back thinking, bleddy ell, int Medders great.

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6 hours ago, LizzieM said:

Gem, referring to your comment about the immigrant children being told to get away from your dog ....... in our neighbourhood we have a quite lot of Indian families and I’ve noticed on several occasions that as I approach them while walking our terrier they scuttle out of the way, as if they’re scared of the dog (or maybe they’re scared of me :crazy:) I wonder if it’s in their culture to have a dislike of dogs?  

I think that its the older generation that try to instill their dislike of dogs into younger people.  I go to a school in the west end of the city where there is a very large population of asian people, the children when away from their parents would spend all their time with Ben.  

Was there not once a newspaper article about an asian driver refusing to take a blind person in his cab as he said dogs were dirty animals something to do with religion ??

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If I remember rightly I think dogs are considered spiritually unclean with both Muslims and Jews. Maybe other religions too.   Years ago we had a gal who was a friend of my wife's come over to visit with her Muslim husband.  When my dog wandered in the husband got really tense and started muttering about dogs should not be in the house unclean, etc.   I thought, but didn't say. It's my house and my dog and if you don't like it the front door is just over there.  They did leave shortly after.  I don't think he wanted to stay anymore.  :Shock:

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18 minutes ago, loppylugs said:

When my dog wandered in the husband got really tense and started muttering about dogs should not be in the house unclean, etc.   I thought, but didn't say. It's my house and my dog and if you don't like it the front door is just over there.  They did leave shortly after.  I don't think he wanted to stay anymore.  :Shock:

I'd have opened the door for him!  ;).  My attitude is: love me, love my dog or...in my case...cats!

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