Cliff Ton 10,479 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 And note those two PTP photos are dated 1949, so plenty of time for it to be demolished/change hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisB 150 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Just looked through all the pages in this topic for the first time. I havn't been down Arkwright Street since 2010, I had no idea all the buildings had gone. When I was working, we often used to stop at the cafe for bacon sandwiches in the mornings, can't remember which one, weren't there two cafes (or sandwich shops) on the east side? What struck me though is, when the new tram line is built, it won't need anything like the area of land that's been cleared. I suppose the planners thought let's wipe the whole of Arkwright St off the map while we're at it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBones 0 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 My Nan lived on Muskham St. From the 70's I remember on Arkwright St.the record shop,the toy shop, the Army surplus store on one side, on the other side there was a newsagent, a hippy book shop, the Viking cafe and of course the New Bridge Inn where I had several of my very first pints. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ooooooooooooo got new big bridge for the tram !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barclaycon 569 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 Thanks for posting the pictures of the 'new' bridge over Midland station replacing the 'old' GCR bridge which was removed only about 30 years ago! Do you know if they are rebuilding all the viaducts as well on the way to crossing the Trent? I'll be very interested to see the route across the river to West Bridgford. It is basically the GCR route isn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,479 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 I'll be very interested to see the route across the river to West Bridgford. It is basically the GCR route isn't it? Yes barclaycon, that part of it is absolutely Great Central Have a look at this for a bit more detail http://www.thetram.net/pdfs/phase2Map/clifton-via-wilford.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barclaycon 569 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Thanks very much for that Cliff, very helpful. It looks as though there are some sharp turns on the route from Midland station southwards (obviously something that trams can cope with that trains can't), but it is basically the GCR route and it even looks like they will be using the same position for the bridge crossing the Trent. (Probably using the original foundations too!) I'll have to organise a trip up to Notts to go and have a look when the route is finished. I did the same when they opened the Robin Hood line and also when the tram route was opened to Cinderhill. When hatchet man Beeching closed all those lines in the 60's he never considered the value of infrastructure - probably didn't even care. He was paid to do a job and simply carried out the wishes of a short-sighted government. I don't for one moment think that every line should have been kept open - there was after all an enormous amount of duplication, but it's interesting how so many of these 'new' transport initiatives are on disused railways. Even the channel tunnel route used lots of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
... 1,411 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 the chippie was on the corner of summer st and arkwright st opposite wasan alleyway to dr foleys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi I used to live at The Queens Hotel during my childhood, spent a decade of my life there and it holds a lot of memories. yesterday I was talking about the past and thought i would Google it. was surprised to see an application for demolition, but can understand as it looks an eye sore now. just a pity it couldn't be saved as a restaurant/bar has a lot of potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LizzieM 9,514 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Hi I used to live at The Queens Hotel during my childhood, spent a decade of my life there and it holds a lot of memories. yesterday I was talking about the past and thought i would Google it. was surprised to see an application for demolition, but can understand as it looks an eye sore now. just a pity it couldn't be saved as a restaurant/bar has a lot of potential. My Uncle worked behind the bar at the Queens Hotel in the 60's, to get some pin money. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 My Uncle worked behind the bar at the Queens Hotel in the 60's, to get some pin money. a bit before my time, i'm afraid i lived there in the 1990s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Welcome Webbo Yes it would make a good restaurant when the are re generates due to the trams. Would be a shame to see it go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,479 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 When you look at the Queens from the outside, on both sides of the building you can see a row of windows which have half-disappeared under the pavement. In earlier days the road level was raised, and the hotel became one storey less than it used to be. Anyone who was ever in the place, did you go in the windowless rooms? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fynger 841 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Must have had quite a few steps up to the door then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alisoncc 379 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 When you look at the Queens from the outside, on both sides of the building you can see a row of windows which have half-disappeared under the pavement. In earlier days the road level was raised, and the hotel became one storey less than it used to be. I lived just around the corner on Summers Street in the 1940's and 50's, and the Queens was like that back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 When you look at the Queens from the outside, on both sides of the building you can see a row of windows which have half-disappeared under the pavement. In earlier days the road level was raised, and the hotel became one storey less than it used to be. Anyone who was ever in the place, did you go in the windowless rooms? I went in there, but as a young child the rooms and caves under the Queens used to scare me.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick2me 3,033 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Is there a photo anywhere showing it before? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor S 2,003 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Get that horse and cart out of the way! People want to look at the footpath outside the pub. If you search Arkwright Street on PTP, you will find a similar building at the same intersection of Arkwright Stret, Queens Drive etc with the same architecture. Apparently the building was a bank built in the 1840s and the street gradient alongside the buildings walls is the same as the Queens Hotel. Ref No: NTGM015051 Town Village: Nottingham,_Meadows Location: Arkwright Street North - Queens Road Title: Arkwright Street North, Meadows, Nottingham, c 1900s-1920s Further Information: The increase in commercial activity in the Meadows led to the Nottingham and District Bank erecting a new branch in 1884. Another point is that the Queens Hotel in Arkwright Street is also described as the Queens Head Hotel in Arkwright Street. Is this just an error by PTP and others since Kimberley also had a Queens Head Hotel or, did the Arkwright Street establishment lose her head along the time? Ref No: NTGM012496 Town Village: Nottingham,_Meadows Location: Arkwright Street - Queens Road - Queens Drive junction Title: Arkwright Street, looking south, showing the Queen's Head Hotel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,479 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I found the one with the irritating horse and cart, but didn't get round to posting it. I also found this one which suffers from a similar problem! People and animals are always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commo 1,292 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I believe that the photo' in #216 captures the inaugural meeting of the Nottingham branch of the White Stick Pointing Association, a very popular pastime at that time as evidenced by the crowds it attracted, but which unfortunately lasted only a few years and fell out of favour when folk realised that they could point just as well, even though not as high, with just their fingers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
susyshoes 69 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 the windows are completely different though in the 'bank' photo, (arched) and yet it would make sense that its the same building Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley 288 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I don't think that bank is the same buildng? if it was then lots of alterations (1920's photo) then removed and reverted to old style? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ton 10,479 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 the windows are completely different though in the 'bank' photo, (arched) and yet it would make sense that its the same building I don't think that bank is the same buildng? if it was then lots of alterations (1920's photo) then removed and reverted to old style? I think the explanation is because.... The increase in commercial activity in the Meadows led to the Nottingham and District Bank erecting a new branch in 1884. So the horse-and-cart photo and the "white-stick" photos show the pre-1884 building, although the "Bank" photo is obviously post-1884. Circa 1875, old building, with Tinkers Leen still open Circa 1910 with the Bank, Tinkers Leen half-buried Quote Link to post Share on other sites
susyshoes 69 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 aha! different building, on opposite corner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
susyshoes 69 Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 http://goo.gl/maps/gqZQO its here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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