Pearson Brothers

[Brew 5,482]

It was at the top end of Maid Marion Way, long gone now...

[Cliff Ton 10,548]

Granby Street was roughly the stretch of MMW from Friar Lane to Park Row.

[Stuart.C 497]

Park Row / Derby Rd junction, past and present.

And they'll about the scrap the island and make it a junction, or may have already started.

 

 

 

[Jill Sparrow 10,401]

On 4/11/2024 at 1:03 PM, Jill Sparrow said:

Muriel's mum, according to my mum, was determined to marry off her daughter to one of the Player family and she bought her the most exquisite clothes, including evening gowns and swanky shoes for the social gatherings Muriel attended in the late 40s and 50s.  Many of them came from a very high class ladieswear shop in the council house arcade in Nottingham, next to Burton's.

I've been trying to remember the name of the shop I was referring to and the name Peter Barrie has suddenly sprung to mind. I'm not sure whether it's the right one. Does anyone else remember it? It was there for many years. The premises are still there but occupied by someone else these days.

 

I remember another very high class shop on Long Row, I think, where Muriel's clothes came from but, again, the name escapes me. Just remember mum pointing out the place when I was a child and saying that all the taffeta ball gowns and velvet skirts In my dressing up box originally came from there.

[Alpha 176]

On 4/11/2024 at 1:03 PM, Jill Sparrow said:

I remember The Golden Cage. It was there for years. Also Pennyfeathers on Goldsmith Street, in an old Victorian house that probably isn't there any longer.  They were ideal places for finding theatrical costumes.

 

When I was a child, we lived next door to an elderly couple whose only daughter, Muriel, had been one of my mother's best friends from early childhood.  After attending Berridge and the dreaded Manning Grammar, Muriel went to Millers Business College and then found employment as a secretary to one of the directors of Player's.  Muriel's mum, according to my mum, was determined to marry off her daughter to one of the Player family and she bought her the most exquisite clothes, including evening gowns and swanky shoes for the social gatherings Muriel attended in the late 40s and 50s.  Many of them came from a very high class ladieswear shop in the council house arcade in Nottingham, next to Burton's.

 

The best laid plans of Muriel's mother went awry and, whilst on holiday in Cornwall, Muriel met a Cornish boat builder and married him instead.  In the early 60s, Muriel's mum turfed out all her daughter's old clothes and donated them to my dressing up box.  I loved parading about in them 

Wondrful memories, Jill. more of this please, Alpha.

[Cliff Ton 10,548]

22 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said:

I remember another very high class shop on Long Row, I think, where Muriel's clothes came from but, again, the name escapes me. 

 

Presumably on Long Row somewhere between King St/ClumberStreet ?

 

And the name Peter Barrie vaguely rings a bell; I probably walked past the place many times, obviously without going in.

[Jill Sparrow 10,401]

Had a look on Street view at the former Peter Barrie premises. The frontage has been altered and it looks very different now.  Many years ago, I bought a short evening cape from there. It was in the sale. The original price was eyewatering! I still have it.

 

The other shop may have been nearer to Pearson's than Clumber Street.  I'll have to find a 1950s trade directory and see whether I can track it down.

[DAVIDW 1,705]

This from the 1950s :

 

Peter Barrie, New
Exchange Buildings, a business owned by Barnett Hutton of 3 Broadway , Nottm.
 Mr. Eric Knowles, the manager.

[MRS B 574]

I can remember Peter Barrie.

[denshaw 2,879]

I spotted Smalleys shop the other day, it's on Derby Road just above the old Strathdon.

[Willow wilson 898]

In the early 60s there was a 'Mick Smalley, Hatter of Repute' shop on Parliament Street somewhere between the Coach and Horses pub and Clumber Street. Don't know if they were same owners. 

[The Engineer 617]

Were the Pearsons who developed the furniture/department store related to George Pearson & Sons, bleachers and dyers (factory on Arnold Road, Basford afaik)?

 

We lived in 'Stoneycroft' on Arnold Road (1963-64), a large Bulwell stone house that stood in an acre of land between Wilton St and Wallis St.  Previous occupant had been Dr Keaveny.  Mam said it was one of two houses built for daughters of the Pearsons who had the department store, the other one being Rosebery House on Waterford Street (nearer Basford Crossings, built 1884).

 

Stoneycroft was demolished and replaced by a factory for printers Spreckley and Evans.  Rosebery House still stands.

 

As an aside, I read that George Pearson & Co. of Basford was taken over by Spray and Burgass, dyers and finishers, in 1947 (the latter had a factory in Leonard Street, Bulwell, where I first worked on leaving school).

 

 

[Cliff Ton 10,548]

You may have already seen it, but Pearsons have a Wiki page which gives the names of various members of the Pearson family. Someone with access to Ancestry etc might be able to make it all add up (or not).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearsons_of_Nottingham

[DAVIDW 1,705]

21 hours ago, The Engineer said:

Were the Pearsons who developed the furniture/department store related to George Pearson & Sons, bleachers and dyers.

 

 

Not impossible but I would say the two families weren't connected .

 Looks like Frederick Pearson founder of Pearson Bros ironmongers was Yorkshire born.

 

The Pearsons of the bleachers and dyers family were from Basford.

It would appear the houses you mention were connected to the bleaching and dyers company.

 

This from Nottm Journal, October 1906 when the firm became a Limited Company.

 

"NEW COMPANY
GEORGE PEARSON AND SONS, LTD.
This company has just been registered with a capital of £16,000, in £1 shares, to adopt an agreement with A.Pearson, G. Pearson and W. Pearson, and to carry on the business of bleachers, dyers, dressers, and finishers of lace, whether curtains, hosiery, yarns, and substance, cotton, silk, or other lace dressers, calenderers, weavers, stovers, spinners, combers, pressers, textile printers, &c.

 

The subscribers are:-

A, Pearson, Arnold Road, old Basford, Nottingham, bleacher ;

 

G. Pearson, Stoneycroft, Arnold road, Old Basford, bleacher :

 

W. E. Pearson, Rosebery House, Old Basford, Nottingham, bleacher ;

 

T. G. Mellors, 1, King John's Chambers, accountant ;

 

Mrs, E. Pearson, Nottingham, Old Basford, Notingham ;

 

Mrs. M. Pearson, Stoneycroft, Arnold road, Old Basford, Notingham;

 

Mrs. E. M. V. Pearson, Arnold-road, Old Basford, Nottingham.

 

The number of directors is not to be less than three nor more than five.

The first are G. Pearson, A, Pearson, and W. H. Pearson. 

Registered office :Southwark Bridge Works, Old Basford, Nottingham."
 

[benjamin1945 16,286]

I wonder if the Pearsons my mother worked for in the 50s....was part of the same company......she was a Machinist at the SOUTHWARK street Old Basford.premises.......i know it was a Lace factory..........

[The Engineer 617]

Good research @DAVIDW.

 

I found a bit more information here, from Dr Keavney, occupier of Stoneycroft before we were there:

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=808099179400611&id=325305567679977&set=a.325466000997267

 

Looks like there was a fire in February 1959 at the factory, with a fatality.

 

Lesley Moore and Angela Dean (both posting comments there) appear to be living descendants of the Pearson (dyers and finishers) family.

 

 

[Jill Sparrow 10,401]

Lovely house. Is there a photo of Stoneycroft?  When was Stoneycroft demolished?  A Manning friend lived on Wallis Street in the early 70s so, if it was there then, I must have seen it many times when I went to visit her.

[benjamin1945 16,286]

I remember the fire....i stood across the road........so yes it was my Mam's workplace.......

[The Engineer 617]

@Jill Sparrow there are another thread or two hereabouts where I have mentioned Stoneycroft.

 

It occupied a whole block between Wilton Street and Wallis Street, with the main entrance on Arnold Road.  I think it was Nos. 77-79 (I don't know why two numbers).  I was told it stood in an acre of land.  The house itself was set towards the rear of the plot so probably not that obvious when passing by.  There was a Bulwell stone wall all around (mostly still there), with shards of glass cemented into the top (I doubt that would be allowed these days!)  I think it had double gates at the front.  There was a gravel drive up to and then around the left of the house, to a yard at the rear.  There were also some old stables around the back and an outdoor WC.  The right hand half of the plot (as viewed when entering from Arnold Road) was mostly an orchard of pear trees.  The left hand side was lawns.  There was a path to a side gate on Wilton Street (there is evidence remaining if you look at Streetview).

 

I don't know when it was demolished but I see there is now a Stoneycroft Road named after it on a development off Park Lane.

 

Sadly, I have not seen any photographs of the house.  To me, as a youngster, it seemed massive: double fronted, two big reception rooms, kitchen, pantry, cellars, four bedrooms, presumably a bathroom (though I don't remember that).  I expect Dr Keavney (the Facebook member in the link I posted above) would have a better recollection than I do.

 

 

[Cliff Ton 10,548]

This subject of houses and factories on Arnold Road seemed vaguely familiar........and it's in this old thread.

 

https://nottstalgia.com/forums/topic/22746-hello-there-hey-arnold/

 

[Beekay 5,265]

Dr. Keavney was my and my wifes GP, when he had his surgery at 1, Bailey street, Basford. His son, Dr. Keavney jnr. took over his practice when he retired.

I recall the updating and extentions to make it into clinic/medical centre. We stayed on their register until we were exiled in Feb.1987. One occasion when visiting Nottingham, I had forgotten some of my medications so I called in there to see if they could help, (as I was an ex patient). After a phone call to my home surgery they issued me with a prescription.

[Cliff Ton 10,548]

16 minutes ago, The Engineer said:

@Jill Sparrow there are another thread or two hereabouts where I have mentioned Stoneycroft.

 

It occupied a whole block between Wilton Street and Wallis Street, with the main entrance on Arnold Road.  I think it

 

Is it the large place shown in the middle of here ?

Park Tavern is on the corner of Barlock Road (which hadn't yet reached up to Arnold Road.

[Beekay 5,265]

Looking at the above map reminds me of a chip shop that was on the left side, going up Arnold road. Somewhere around Cheltenham street or thereabouts. We would call in there on the way home off Valley road, after visiting 'er indoors parents.

[The Engineer 617]

@Cliff Ton: Yes, that is it.  The two detached outbuilding at the top would have been the greenhouses.

[mary1947 2,107]

2 hours ago, Beekay said:

Dr. Keavney was my and my wifes GP, when he had his surgery at 1, Bailey street, Basford. His son, Dr. Keavney jnr. took over his practice when he retired.

I recall the updating and extentions to make it into clinic/medical centre. We stayed on their register until we were exiled in Feb.1987. One occasion when visiting Nottingham, I had forgotten some of my medications so I called in there to see if they could help, (as I was an ex patient). After a phone call to my home surgery they issued me with a prescription.

BK When a person come into any surgery that is at least 20/30 miles from there own GP they can not refuse any medication, they compleat a blue form and you are a tempory paient for approx 24hours, they ring your surgery to check your medication unless you have your repeat PX on you. Later  they claim the money from your surgery, for there work,       The only reason I know this is because I worked at BEACON MEDICAL PRACTICE Skegness /Chaple/ Ingermills  for 2/3 years,  it was amazing how many folk used to come on holiday with out there meds, In fact one person can in with his perscripiton and on it was 40 iterms