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Jim..  Does that 70% include the younger element of this country? I'd argue  that the younger folks are mostly the 30% which have deserted 'traditional' TV.

 

I use F'book and also look at BBC News at least once daily.  If you were to look at F'book you would see a morass of misinformation, with a bit of NHS info poking up here and there.

 

I do not see how BBC News is 'confusing'.  Daily stats for infections, vaccinations and deaths are hardly challenging, even to a mathematical moron like me.

We are seeing ever increasing numbers vaccinated, higher infection rates amongst the unvaccinated and lower death/hospitalisation rates among the vaccinated. How hard is that to grasp?

 

As for viewing.. It's obviously not straightforward.. but given that younger people these days often seem to have the attention span of a Gnat. I doubt they watch, or understand, much news.  This is borne out anecdotally by my youngest.  She is highly intelligent, but clueless about current affairs etc.

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17 minutes ago, DJ360 said:

I do not see how BBC News is 'confusing'.

 

It becomes confusing when the same or similar facts are presented in different ways by different people to excess and people switch off or simply stop paying attention. 

When the blessed one did his daily Covid address he had two wingmen who simply repeated and agreed with each other but said it in a different way.

 

In other news items the media scrambled around until they found a talking head to offer opposing views.

Looney tunes is not the sole purview of Facebook. I'm sure many must read these silly things but not really sure how much of it people actually believe.

 

 

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18 hours ago, catfan said:

To the left of course.

 

I will give you my view on that in the Politics thread CF.

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Is Boris still opening up Monday in view of the 50.000 cases he predicted?

Keep safe and sensible everyone.

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2 hours ago, oldphil said:

NonnaB, this site is reserved for the safe and sensible.

It's all them others

How the buggery did I  gerron then?

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I any case those fashion & homemade masks are a complete waste of time, I’m sure those that want further lockdowns never went out in the first place, those that want to stay in watching telly with their masks on do so, lifes for living & far to short, you’ll be dead soon, try & enjoy it. 

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Was at a vaccination site yesterday afternoon.  The pattern of low demand continued.  I counted 30+ NHS staff (vaccinators, nurses, pharmacists, a GP and a few admin), about 10 volunteer stewards and a handful of council staff who run the building.  At no point was there a queue; I'd say there were fewer than 10 people jabbed per hour (capacity 96 per hour).

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Dont know if UK has the Green Card or similar for those who have received their vaccinations because from August 6th we must always carry it wherever we go. There are still loads that dont want it  and today theres a protest about it in Turin. Those who dont have this pass will not be able to go into public places.there are exceptions and others are closed . The Delta virus is spreading quickly here so we hope that the no vax will see sense and get vaccinated. Just heard on TV after the conference that Draghi gave last night Lazio has had 38,000 new appointments for the vaccine. He obviously got his message over. He said that to not have the vaccine was an invitation to death. A bit dramtic but if it works.

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All I have is card with my name, vaccine dates and batch numbers. It's not green. I haven't been asked to produce it but, being a misanthrope, I'm staying away from anywhere that is likely to make such a request!

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We went shopping yesterday for the first time since “freedom day”. We were wearing masks (proper ones not a fashion statement) and so were the majority of people we saw. Looks like common sense has prevailed. Well done Bulwell:clapping:Life is short and I don’t intend to have it made shorter than it should be. 

I have got a Coronavirus vaccination confirmation letter which gives details of my two jabs and gives all information about them. There is also a reference (bar code) which is unique to me as well. It can be shown to confirm you have had the jabs, but like Jill it is highly unlikely that I will need to show it. A relative sent away for it when she got one to check where her AZ vaccine came from. It is from the NHS so possibly an internet search will show the source if anyone wants one.

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Good . Actually the card isnt green .Its a QR code with all your details on in paper form or digital. Does it entitle you to go where you want or if you havent been vaccinated you wont have one and you could be stopped for enjoying yourselves. Pubs, concerts, sports activities and restaurants among othe things. I see a problem that those with businesses or heads of activities cant always or cant be bothered to ask for this certificate as they should. That goes for here too. A while ago we went away to,Sicily for a couple of days making sure we asked the Dr for proof of our two vaccinations. We took them with us and at the airport we went out of our way to show the proof and nobody wanted to know neither here or at our destination and our return. News programmes have been showing various world wide airports on arrivals and departures and no one is checked. Make you wonder whether if they are responsible for the infection rate going up. Mind you the airports we went to were a nightmare to get into departures. We had to go straight to arrivals doors, pass through one side and do a tour of the whole airport before we reached the desks. 

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When will people realise that being vaccinated does work and that it doesn’t hurt and doesn’t make everyone ill but it does save lives. I’m so annoyed, yesterday we heard that Sicily and Sardinia are now in red zone. We can still travel next week when we should be going and taking our 16 yr old grandson but we’ ve had a setback. Telephoned relatives last night and apparently they haven’t been vaccinated, they “thought”we knew. We couldn’t see them a few weeks ago when we went because the village where they live there were too many cases so we avoided them. We are now wondering whether to cancel and lose our payment or go and stay far away from them. I don’t know whether my dil will allow my grandson to come with us. He has his last vaccination 6 days before we go and I know for certain he’ll be so disappointed. We are looking at alternative destinations , like staying in the mainland as we are still all clear. Decisions, decisions last minute are difficult to make. Ok if the company cancels the flight because they refund but a different matter if we cancel. Feeling very ….very.

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It's not compulsory to have the vaccine, everyone has the right to choose & we should respect that, those that have had the jab are still catching covid & passing it on ...... Errrm

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True enough but what we don't and can't know for sure is the degree by which the vaccine ameliorates the effect of covid.

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On 7/30/2021 at 3:57 PM, nonnaB said:

When will people realise that being vaccinated does work

With almost 50% of the Australian population in Sydney and Brisbane in relatively tight lockdown the queues to get tested are miles long and suddenly people want to get vaccinated. One problem though, not enough of the Pfizer vaccine after this stupid federal government scared everyone away from using the AZ version. Many people in our area that have just become eligible for a vaccination are being told none available until late Sept early Oct.

On a brighter note nonna B after that great win in the hundred metres final by the Italian sprinter Lamont Marcel Jacobs I heard an interview with his mother, what an amazing, proud but humble person.

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Seems that people are starting to realise it makes sense to be vaccinated. Its the same here but still plenty who dont want to know.

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The whole shemozzle re Australia's vaccination roll out continues and the difference between how states are responding to it is staggering.

An Australian update for those with family and friends in OZ.

The Brisbane and near area of Queensland is currently in lock-down and talking about reducing restrictions or coming out of lock-down this weekend and today reported 10 cases.

The whole state of Victoria has just gone into its' 6th lock-down with 10 reported cases.

The most populous areas of NSW's coast including greater Sydney are in lock-down and likely to remain so for several weeks with 291 cases and sadly an increasing death toll.

The Northern Territory has reported 1 case which is in a quarantine facility.

South Australia, Western Australia, Tasmania and the ACT have not reported any cases in the last few days.

Guess what, each state and territory has its own website and they are not in a standard format and on some it is extremely difficult to find out what you want to know re travel restrictions and data etc.

It is becoming obvious that the major population centres cannot continue with on again off again lock-down and restrictions.

We still have only 16.3% of our population fully vaccinated and this failure is 100% due to the Scott Moronson Federal LNP government. The fact that it put all its eggs in the AZ vaccine basket, did not purchase sufficient quantities of any alternate vaccines and then due to its incompetence ran a very effective scare campaign against the use of AZ for under 60's. They are now running round like chooks with no heads exhorting people to get vaccinated with any available vaccine if they understand the risks and sit there wondering why there is a reluctance by some people to get vaccinated with AZ. I just hope people remember this at next years Federal election.

My wife and I had our second AZ vaccination yesterday and absolutely no adverse reactions so hopefully some time next year we will be able to get to the UK.

 

 

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The number of  Covid cases in Australia seems low compared with here in the UK, where we have thousands of new cases every day and over 130,000 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic!

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Our new cases today 6,599 and 24 victims. Its increased very quickly but they say its still rising but more slowly. Green pass started today and the people who agree and dont agree with it are spouting their opinions on FB. Some agreeing and others really aggresive. Stupid really. Its a new law so like it or not we have to obey.

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Nonna, here in the UK we have had 31,808 new cases and 92 deaths reported in the past 24 hours

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