Oztalgian 3,296 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Give them the English Archers salute 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,296 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Sitting on the outside looking in (Nottstalgia choir cue for song) as I am, I'd like to wish you all a "Happy Brexit Day" 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 I will not be celebrating. We were never a 'vassal state', we always made our own laws and most of the Daily Mail bullshit about bent bananas etc., was just that... bullshit. So.. I'll just wait for the xenophobes and the ignorant to 'own' Brexit. You did this...It's on you now .... Nobody to blame but yourselves.. though I'm sure you'll try... Even Michael Gove.. hardly the best and brightest of politicians.. has admitted today that now that Brexit is 'done' (which it isn't.. by a long way').. that he and his kind have nowhere to hide. Brexit is entirely theirs to own. Go for it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidA 153 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 A happy Brexit day to all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,082 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Not all of us wanted to leave. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavertongirl 1,719 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 So this is it leaving day. Must say I never thought it would happen. Doesn’t feel any different to any other day. I am not going to be doing any celebrating, this is only the beginning celebrations should be for when we make a success of it, which I am sure we ALL will. I know many did not want to leave, but with all due respect many did not want to join in the first place either. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Happy BREXIT day everyone. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,418 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'm firmly in the remain faction, (though I voted against joining) and will not be celebrating but good luck to those that are. I really hope we make a success of it but I have serious doubts about Johnson and his cronies doing anything but make a dogs breakfast of it. There is still much to do and a long way to go before we are free and clear though I don't doubt he will blather his way round to a minimal deal and persuade the gullible that he is a man that gets things done. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 I'm with you on that Brew. Johnson is a self serving crook. He's not even a committed Brexiter. He doesn't do 'principles' and will do and say anything to get into power. He's also having his strings pulled by a very creepy and dangerous Demonic Cummings. I've said many times that no leaver has presented me with a single valid argument for leaving, or any tangible future benefit. We will not become an all white nation.... our empire will not be restored, we will not suddenly become a major World power again. We will not 'take back control'. because we never lost it. We will not gain the right to decide what happens in our own country.. because we never lost that either. Instead.. we will be going cap in hand to the likes of the USA, Russia, China etc.., for trade deals. NONE of the above have our interests on their radar and they will not do us any favours. So.. good luck folks. This is what you wanted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,082 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Now we are out of the EU will duty free goods come back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,149 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Yes Mary, now you'll have to show your passport at Hadrians wall when going North, and now no chance of getting in Wales. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Anyone ran out of food or medicine yet? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,895 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, mary1947 said: Now we are out of the EU will duty free goods come back? We were only talking about it yesterday. I'm not interested in what Brexit did or does but what about those that travel to Calais to stock up.If there are restrictions will they go teetotal. On the question of you no longer belonging to the EU, personally I feel sad that the connection will be lost. I feel I've lost a bit of where I lived for so long. It's really " bu**ered up our travel documents. I gave up my passport many years ago as Italy has ID's which are more useful and convenient than PP's and I have no intention of renewing it so that I can only travel to the U.K. Lets see in 11 months time if you've done the right thing or not. Or maybe it will take longer. Have you all really got faith in Boris? Hearing about him it doesn't seem so. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nonnaB 4,895 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Beekay said: Yes Mary, now you'll have to show your passport at Hadrians wall when going North, and now no chance of getting in Wales. Makes you wonder in a few years where will Scotland and Wales be. Maybe passports will be needed there too. Oh U.K. What have you done. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, radfordred said: Anyone ran out of food or medicine yet? I've got enough thyroxine to last all year! . Not that I expected to have problems getting supplies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 What happened to the old maxim, everyone and everything deserves a chance? Starting out with negative expectations isn't going to help anyone except those whose only desire is to see it fail and there's no shortage of those! 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,149 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, nonnaB said: Makes you wonder in a few years where will Scotland and Wales be. Maybe passports will be needed there too. Oh U.K. What have you done. I still have to show my passport when crossing the Thames! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,418 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, radfordred said: Anyone ran out of food or medicine yet? Anyone seen £350M a week suddenly appear, any new laws made that the big bad EU forbade, any massive migration back to where they came from? Silly questions... I'm a pragmatists and cat calling and 'I towd yer so' will achieve nothing. To that end I'm willing to go along with things as they develop although I reserve the right to call Johnson a buffoon. There is a push by Sturgeon that will slowly gather strength for Scottish independence and Boris has agreed a mish mash agreement after the nationalists did very well in the Northern Ireland elections. I think nonna has voiced a very real fear that we may yet live to see the start of the break up of the UK. I hope not. To balance the doom and gloom predications I've tried to find positives about leaving the EU. 1. 2. 3. 4. Oh well I tried... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Beekay said: Yes Mary, and now no chance of getting in Wales. Every cloud.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,149 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Can you imagine Brew,? The Isle of Wight having it's own parliament and an independent state. Duty frees on Wightlink ferry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 I'm a remainer who's accepted the time for change, there was no alternative. Often, when moving out of a 'comfort zone' (if the EU could ever be likened to that) getting out of a rut, changing tack completely can make things better than before. We need to embrace the new challenge and the quicker the better. Lots of folk think they know the answers but NOBODY can predict what's ahead. Our country has faced adversity before and come through, we just need to make sure these times are no exception. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, TBI said: Lots of folk think they know the answers but NOBODY can predict what's ahead. So why do it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,418 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, Beekay said: Can you imagine Brew,? The Isle of Wight having it's own parliament and an independent state. Duty frees on Wightlink ferry. Under the United Nations Charter they may well have the right of self determination and could secede from the UK. It was this right that led to the creation of Northern Ireland after Ireland gained independence from 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland' in 1921. Ireland was for a very short period united but the people of the north rejected Dublin and chose to remain British. The Isle of Man for instance is legally independent nor has it ever been part of the UK and has its own government. Some of the channel Isles are similar so an independent Isle of Wigget is entirely possible and not as far fetched as you think. Not sure about the duty free, you had to be, or travelling to a destination, at least 12 miles from the border pre EU membership. I don't know if that still applies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBI 2,351 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Because everyone knows best...or think they do! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DJ360 6,730 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Jill Sparrow said: What happened to the old maxim, everyone and everything deserves a chance? Starting out with negative expectations isn't going to help anyone except those whose only desire is to see it fail and there's no shortage of those! The EU was portrayed entirely negatively by the right wing media, Farage and others for decades. Most of that negativity was based on either lies, or deliberate misinterpretation of facts. Just one example.. 'we can't make our own laws'. Simply not true. Meanwhile, none of the clearly positive aspects of membership was mentioned. I have pleaded repeatedly on all platforms, for somebody.. anybody.. to tell me the benefits of leaving. Apart from endless parroting of the mythical disadvantages of membership. nothing has been revealed. It is therefore entirely reasonable that I conclude that the Leave camp do not have any positives to declare. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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