Stuart.C 491 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Quote Phil Mayfield,, I couldn't get black pudding from our farm shop last Saturday. Someone had just been in and bought 20!! Maybe they had prior knowledge of them being Outlawed soon and were stockpling?? Oh Crap, can't say "Outlawed" as Outlaws were usually white Male and should now be represented by all Genders and all races. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 I hope the black puddings gave them an upset stomach. My Sunday 'full works' breakfast was ruined by not having one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radfordred 6,284 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 I'd like to see the bonus for the M&S marketing manager that came up with midget/mini idea? Talk about free advertising Wonder if they will put them on the top shelf? Sugar Puffs look out. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catfan 14,793 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Or Snow White & the 7 DWARFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Or, conversely, the Jolly Green Giant. Heightism can be just as offensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katyjay 5,091 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Beekay said: They do, in their fortune cookies. A bit of useless information for yer, fortune cookies were not invented in China, but in San Francisco. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 There was also a brilliant film with the same title, starring Messrs Lemmon and Matthau. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IAN FINN 809 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Always the truth in fortune cookies. If chain still swings seat still warm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
don walker 122 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 why is it that we can say the nick name of certain people and no one bats an eye,, I.E kiwi for new zealanders,,, ausies for autralia,, frogs for the french, paddies for the irish, jocks for the scots,, limies for the english,, but when you say nigger for the africans, or pakies for the asians the world falls in ,, can some body give me the answer,, after all they are only words, I am 75yrs old and in my live I have been called some very nasty names ,but I have just shrugged them off,, is it just the P.C brigade trying to control what we say and do,, a case of the tail wagging the dog.... this is a genuine observation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 BAME, black and minority ethnic, is being brought into question now. 'People of colour' is acceptable but 'coloured people' apparently isn't. Depending on the company you're with you can be walking on eggshells every time you open your mouth. I'm of an age where I don't give a stuff! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,422 Posted January 14, 2022 Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Why do they feel the need to mention skin colour. The first Asian woman to walk solo to the South Pole is described, not as Asian, but as a woman of colour - totally meaningless. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
letsavagoo 963 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 15 hours ago, don walker said: why is it that we can say the nick name of certain people and no one bats an eye,, I.E kiwi for new zealanders,,, ausies for autralia,, frogs for the french, paddies for the irish, jocks for the scots,, limies for the english,, but when you say nigger for the africans, or pakies for the asians the world falls in ,, can some body give me the answer,, after all they are only words, I am 75yrs old and in my live I have been called some very nasty names ,but I have just shrugged them off,, is it just the P.C brigade trying to control what we say and do,, a case of the tail wagging the dog.... this is a genuine observation Only words you say. Words are very very powerful and it’s naive to think otherwise. I once had a conversation with a lovely West Indian I worked with (died too young RIP) as to why the ‘N’ word was so offensive to black people. It harks back to slavery and colonialism and objectifies and is wrong on so many levels. It is a word I will never use even in private. I lived next door to a Muslim man who had a white wife. A lovely couple who would both refer to the corner shop as the Paki shop. I’ve worked with men who were called Jock, Taff, Paddy with no offence intended or taken. When I was young I remember my mum telling me I should refer to black people as ‘coloured’ being politer than saying black man or woman but coloured is as I understand it no longer polite. Watching an episode of Heartbeat the other day featured a young ‘man of colour’ appearing in the small Yorkshire village and the shock and prejudice he faced. He was called a darkie which was quite shocking to hear in todays climate. I used to work and had official contact with social workers and had to write reports on young people in care or otherwise in need of supervision. People with parents of mixed ethnicity were at one time referred to as half caste. That went out and mixed race was superseded by dual heritage and goodness knows what is an acceptable polite term now. If offered a coffee it was always with or without never black or white and I did struggle with that. Certain words that were acceptable historically are outlawed now and quite rightly so. A problem arises with historical fiction and films etc. We all know about Guy Gibsons dog being blanked out in the dam busters. Should it be? It’s history and here we have a can of worms. If it’s offensive and it’s omission to a general audience has no impact on the integrity of the story why include it. When it comes to midget gems though the word midget isn’t ‘small person specific. Midget submarine etc and it all gets a bit silly. I’m sure some people must sit down and work out what they can find offence in next. Yes it can get a bit silly but it’s not all silly and words can cause genuine distress and offence. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 I have the diary kept by a lady who was born in 1896. She was a nurse/ambulance driver at the Front during the First World War and involved with the SOE during the second, although she never spoke of it. Brave lady. During a lull in hostilities, she spotted a 'Hun helmet' lying in No Man's Land and, fancying a trophy, walked out to get it. She could clearly see a German sniper watching her every move but she somehow felt that he wouldn't shoot a nurse. He didnt. She got her trophy. The diary relates to her activities during the Second World War when she was with Sue Ryder who later married Leonard Cheshire. She was in various countries and she uses the N word to refer to anyone with a dark skin, usually Arabs whom she clearly didn't like. I never drink coffee with milk and I refer to it as 'black coffee'. Black is said to be the absence of colour. I recall my mother telling me how, in the early 30s, the sight of anyone who wasn't Caucasian was a very novel event at which people would stop, stare and point their finger. Not because they were prejudiced but because this was something they had never seen before. Today, if an alien were to walk down the street, no doubt the same thing would happen, simply because the sight of an alien is outside our experience. Other times, other ways. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha 176 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 As with the ethnicity issue, most of the older UK generation were not at all sensitive to being called a 'whitety' or 'honky'. Why are the persons of colour, coloured, black, dual ethnics etc, so sensitive to their ethnic terminology? Do these persons have, for some particular reason, a 'chip on their shoulder'? I would relish the exposure of these misguided individuals who initiated the emergence and subsequent surge of Political Correctness that still has roots in the slavery debate. Looking into the slavery issue do these individuals really understand that the slave trade was undertaken by their own people including north African tribal exploiters who were interests were in gaining wealth and armaments in suport their particular political and economic ambitions. A convenient way around this historic episode is to the place all blame on the white race and any reference to the collusion of coloured slave traders who raided the local communities for people trafficing into slavery is quietly fogotten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,159 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 Who is this mysterious "They", who say you can't use this word or that word anymore? What happened to 'Free Speech? When, in God's name is 'common sense going to prevail once more. How long before Judge Dredd types will be walking the streets, watching everything we do. Free country, my a**e. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,159 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 Maybe this is why people don't write letters anymore. They're afraid to put pen to paper anything that might 'offended. I wouldn't be surprised if there is some form of scrutiny on these types of social media. Bring back the "British board of Film Censors" that's what I say, (with tongue firmly in cheek). Better shut up before I'm deleted... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 In my personal opinion, we have regressed to the level of the infant playground where, in order to gain the attention of the teacher on duty, little Johnny (or whatever their name happens to be) goes running up with some trifling tale of a classmate's transgression in order (hopefully) to get someone into trouble. Whether it's parties during lockdown, parties on the eve of Philip's funeral (doubt he'd bat an eyelid), midgets, Guy Gibson's dog, allegations (and that's all they are until proven in a court of law) against royals or statues of people who lived in a different age to whom young folk take an exception (even though those same young folk may be benefiting from an education in some way financed by the person they condemn). It's time the human race grew up and learned to behave itself otherwise than the ego-centered, sticky-faced, wet behind the ears nursery infant. If it cannot or will not do that, perhaps the best thing would be its discontinuance. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philmayfield 6,145 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 I've always called a spade a spade but I imagine someone will decide that could have racial connotations and take offence! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brew 5,422 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 Moving away from non-white people and to causing offence in general; which clever bugger decided that people such as I and a few others would find being called 'old age pensioners' offensive and 'senior citizens' a more acceptable alternative? Who said it's not school-children it's students, it's not teenagers they're young adults? Did they ever care? Lunatics and cripples went through too many iterations to mention before becoming learning difficulties and differently abled. The fact remains no matter what the word is now, it still means the same as it did back in the day before the semantic nazis decided to teach us all manners. I think all books containing words we don't like should be piled high and… oh wait, that's been done… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Centaur 71 Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 Some two thousand years ago when the Romans invaded Britannia my far distant ancestor, known as Albert the Unpleasant, because of his regular attacks of severe flatulence, was captured by a Roman Legion and shipped off to Rome in chains. Sold from the auctioneers block, never to return to this Scepter'd Isle his life of slavery and captivity had commenced. Mourned by the people of his village and his wife in particular she immediately commenced a claim for compensation from the Italian Government for the loss of the man she described as "a breath of fresh air". For around a thousand years the unsettled claim was persued by the family, generation upon generation upon generation, who, traumatised by the injustice were unable to gain a foothold on the ladder of life, unable to succeed, unable to work and instead filled their days with endless moaning and upending statues of Julius Caesar into local rivers. The claim was finally laid to rest in the 9th Century when another relative was taken by the Vikings, but that is another saga. The purpose of this story is that if it happened yesterday, pull your socks up, tighten your belt, look to tomorrow, and get over it because the slavery issue gets very boring, unless, of course, the Italian Government decides to pay out at long last. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mary1947 2,085 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Living in South Africa during the partite they had a lot of different races. 1/ South African White english speaking carried a card for proof 2/ Afrikaner Dutch person who came up with the Afrikane's Language 3/ India's who lived mostley in Durban. 4/ Coloured mixed race who live in the Cape 5/ Bantu Black race ps/ used to have a beauty therapist worked for me and I ask her what should i say and she told me black because I am. Just like you are white. Never Ever say kaffa to a black person it is very bad word. When having a drink in the Hotel lounge (not the bar as women are not allowed in the bars this is 70s) The waiter came up to me his name was Nelson, what drink would you like madam, Nelson may I ask you a question? Yes Madam Nelson what tribe are you from Nelson stood up straight and proudly said ""ZULU" madam I felt honored that a Zulu warrior was serving me a drink. Why? i also felt ashamed that a Zulu warrior was waiting on me. If you have never seen the film Zulu then do. Whilst in SA we went oh holiday to Durban and went to see the Zulu Warriors dancing (for want of a better word) when they stamprd there feet the ground trembled and it was scarey. Then along came Nelson Mandela at last FREEDOM !!!!! When arriving back in the UK my boys were 6 and 4 this black man came into our train carrige my 6 year old straight away said mum Whats that BOY doing in the same carriage as us? now we are not racist but it just goes to show what rubs off. Who/or What started racism in SA look back at your history YES!!!!! IT WAS THE ENGLISH, s,o thought of the day Its a shame that people can't live and let li 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MargieH 7,603 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Mary, that was a really interesting account of your life in S Africa. Thank you x 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oztalgian 3,298 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, mary1947 said: Never Ever say kaffa to a black person it is very bad word. I did some tooling work in Port Elizabeth and was invited by one of the management to a braai (BBQ). During the evening the houseboy brought me a beer and I said "Thank You". The host took me aside and said "You don't say thank you to a kaffa or they get ideas above their station" I said "If any one does something for me I will say thank you regardless of who or what they are" The host never spoke to me again all evening. Was I upset, not on your life. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jill Sparrow 10,307 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Good for you, Oz! People deserve courtesy no matter who or where they are. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beekay 5,159 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Careful Mary1547, you'll be getting snide comments from the diehards who will say that your post was nowt to do with Nottingham . Personally, I found it interesting. My neighbours Josie and Brian used to live in South Africa and they had a couple of servants. They tell us about times when they lived there, until there was a lot of unrest and said it was no longer safe. They too never mentioned Nottingham once. They did always say please if the wanted a drink or something. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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